- From: Steve Comstock <steve@trainersfriend.com>
- Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2015 06:08:16 -0700
- To: Gannon Dick <gannon_dick@yahoo.com>, Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch>, public-html-comments@w3.org, simonp@opera.com, markdavis@google.com, addison@inter-locale.com, team-liaisons@w3.org, Ian Jacobs <ij@w3.org>, Patrick Loftus <patrick.loftus@TNT.COM>, Ulrik Dobashi Hansen <ulrik@808.dk>, Bert Bos <bert@w3.org>
On 11/12/2015 11:36 AM, Gannon Dick wrote: > Hello Steve, > > There are excellent, not IT motivated reasons for > using a local server, or better said locating an > (actual) interface at 127.0.0.1. Well, I'm aware of that interface, but it is not at all what I'm talking about; my suggestion needs code in the browser to simulate the way a server handles <!--#include ... --> statements. > This is not how the "Web of Things" works, but I don't care about that. > but this is how people arrange collections of > reference documents. This is highly significant > in Emergency Management where hardware and > connectivity can be disrupted by the event itself > ... but you, your laptop and trusty thumb drive > survived. There are Portable Apps ... > (http://portableapps.com/), but your trusty thumb > drive might not have its favorite laptop around. My proposal has nothing to do with survival in an emergency, it's far more prosaic. If I have all the pages and files for a website on a thumb drive, then any laptop will work because there will be some browser on the laptop. > You can count on at least a working browser on a > working laptop, I think. Me too. So, if the browser supports the current standard, and if the standard says when a browers is pointed at a local file whose name ends in '.shtml' then the browser should attempt to handle server side includes in the same way a server does. > > That said, the document collection should then be > XML ... because the style, spin, persuasion, > salesmanship whatever you want to call it that > XHTML inherits from HTML should not distract or > interfere with access. Well, I don't want to step on any toes here, but my impression is that XHTML is kinda' moribund and that the latest HTML version is actually gaining steam. Of course, I could be totally wrong (it wouldn't be the first time). And, it shouldn't matter: if the HTML standard were to support my suggestions, presumably that would also be supported in XHTML. > > c.f. > http://Stratml.us/ > http://www.rustprivacy.org/2015/stratml/cap_sml/vfsroot/ > > > --Gannon > -------------------------------------------- > On Thu, 11/12/15, Steve Comstock <steve@trainersfriend.com> wrote: > > Subject: Browser suggestion: local server > To: "Ian Hickson" <ian@hixie.ch>, public-html-comments@w3.org, annevk@opera.com, simonp@opera.com, markdavis@google.com, addison@inter-locale.com, team-liaisons@w3.org, "Ian Jacobs" <ij@w3.org>, "Mark Douglas (CITEC)" <Mark.Douglas@CITEC.COM.AU>, "Patrick Loftus" <patrick.loftus@TNT.COM>, "Ulrik Dobashi Hansen" <ulrik@808.dk>, "Bert Bos" <bert@w3.org> > Date: Thursday, November 12, 2015, 11:08 AM > > Guys, > > I've been doing a lot of development using .shtml > and server side includes. Testing, however, is a > bit of a pain: I can't really test the includes > are working until I upload all the files to my > server. > > It occurs to me it would be terrific if this > could be part of some standard: > > * If a browser (user agent) points to a local file, > and if the filename ends in '.shtml', then the > browser should endeavor to process any 'include' > statements in the file in the same way a server > would > > > This would also be nice because I can put a whole > website on a thumb drive then display it to a meeting > or class without having to actually connect to the > internet! Makes the site much more portable. > > Is that reasonable? Desirable? How do I go about > proposing such behavior? > > > Kind regards, > > > -Steve Comstock > 303-355-2752 > > >
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