[Bug 28736] Feature Request: Banner Title Element

https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=28736

Michael[tm] Smith <mike@w3.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |WONTFIX

--- Comment #1 from Michael[tm] Smith <mike@w3.org> ---
(In reply to Mark Simon from comment #0)
> HTML5 adds more power to the heading elements, which is a good thing.
> However, there appears to be no recommended element for marking up a
> site-wide banner title.

Pages should use H1 for that. The HTML language defines markup for individual
markup; it doesn't define "site-wide" markup.

> Traditionally, many users have resorted to using h1 for the banner heading,
> but this may not be in the spirit of headings which introduce sections.

An H1 as a child of the body element doesn't introduce a new section; instead
it supplies the title for the whole document—exactly as most people expect.

(BTW, "headings which introduce sections" is anyway just a abstract construct
as far as HTML browsers/UAs are concerned, because it UAs don't implement the
outline algorithm defined in the HTML spec.)

> Furthermore, the banner title would be expected to be the same for most, if
> not all, pages, while the h1 would be expected to be different for each page.

That's not necessarily true at all. There's nothing that prevents a set of
documents at a particular site from having the same H1 if that's the how they
want to do it. And users do not necessarily expect to see a different H1 on
each page. They see a title on the page and don't know nor care what the markup
the author is using for it.

There are so far no indications of any browser-implementer interest in adding a
new <banner> (or whatever) element for this case. So it would be better to take
this proposal to another forum such as discuss.webplatform.org or the
public-webapps@w3.org mailing list or the whatwg@whatwg.org list, and then
re-open this if/when there's new any information to add here.

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Received on Wednesday, 17 June 2015 05:14:28 UTC