[Bug 21941] Spaghetti Monster reference is provocative

https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=21941

--- Comment #10 from heydon <heydon@heydonworks.com> ---
(In reply to comment #9)
> I will not object to the crocoduck...
> 
> As for the spaghetti monster, I think it is a different beast... without
> claiming any expertise whatsoever in the field. The history pointed to above
> is a struggle not over creationism teaching, which is basically junk
> science, but against ID, which makes no reference to God, or religion (and
> therefore, no need for an alternate god like a Spaghetti monster)... It says
> the world is 4 billion years old, and has all kinds of evolutionary forces
> happening that it seems like everything fits together very well, and this
> seems to indicate that it was designed, and is not random.  
> 
> It may or may not be the case, but it is a serious theory. I don't see any
> reason to put the disciplines of education into such strict silos that there
> can be no cross discussion ... the great thinkers of history drift easily
> between science and philosophy... and even in our present age Richard
> Dawkins seems to be comfortable doing so in his theories.

(In reply to comment #9)
> I will not object to the crocoduck...
> 
> As for the spaghetti monster, I think it is a different beast... without
> claiming any expertise whatsoever in the field. The history pointed to above
> is a struggle not over creationism teaching, which is basically junk
> science, but against ID, which makes no reference to God, or religion (and
> therefore, no need for an alternate god like a Spaghetti monster)... It says
> the world is 4 billion years old, and has all kinds of evolutionary forces
> happening that it seems like everything fits together very well, and this
> seems to indicate that it was designed, and is not random.  
> 
> It may or may not be the case, but it is a serious theory. I don't see any
> reason to put the disciplines of education into such strict silos that there
> can be no cross discussion ... the great thinkers of history drift easily
> between science and philosophy... and even in our present age Richard
> Dawkins seems to be comfortable doing so in his theories.

Great, I'd be happy to write the crocoduck example in full (without typo's!)

On a personal note, I'm glad my country, England, has no blasphemy laws,
allowing me to question dogma of all kinds without fear of legal retribution.
While people should have a right to their own beliefs, in no case should those
beliefs be protected from scrutiny. 

I have no ideological problem with The Spag' Monster. I just think it's
unhelpfully contrived.

Thanks, everyone.

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Received on Thursday, 9 May 2013 16:57:16 UTC