[Bug 22996] Modify blockquote element definition to allow citations

https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=22996

--- Comment #13 from Leif Halvard Silli <xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no> ---
(In reply to comment #11)
> (In reply to comment #9)

> "The <header> element represents a group of introductory or navigational
> aids." (http://www.w3.org/wiki/HTML/Elements/header)
> 
> Although header has a similar


*identical*


> syntactical relationship to the "nearest
> ancestor", semantically it means something quite different.
> 
> Footer is much more semantically apt since (like the related landmark
> role="contentinfo") it has the purpose of clarification, like a "footnote".
> Surely this is where citations (<cite>) are most at home?
> 
> Certainly <hn> and <header> are _about_ the body content of the relevant
> section, but in an introductory faculty. 

However: ”The blockquote element represents a section that is quoted from
another source”. Note: section. As you know, in “unquoted” texts in HTML
documents, use of sectioning elements, such as <article> and <section>, is
optional. It is enough to use hn-elements - the sectioning will then be
implied. Thus you can have a text like this:

  <body>
   <h1>Foo</h1>
   <p>bar</p>
   <footer>Something about this text</footer>
  </body> 

An Web author might wanna quote that text by placing it inside a <blockquote>.
Using a WYSIWYG tool, (s)he might just select everything on the page, copy it,
and paste it, with footer and all.

And then, according to the idea promoted in this bug, the <footer>
element would count as the Web author’s about text, whereas in reality, it is a
text (s)he has quoted.

> Note that the footer definition does not require it to follow the body
> content in source order (http://www.w3.org/TR/html-markup/footer.html).

In that detail, you are right. However, if we introduced e.g. a
<bqcaption>, we could have the same rule about that element.

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Received on Tuesday, 20 August 2013 10:29:35 UTC