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[Bug 13423] Remove the Editing APIs section. It's extremely incomplete and contradicts my editing spec on a lot of points, so it will confuse implementers.

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Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 12:18:09 +0000
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--- Comment #30 from Shelley Powers <shelleyp@burningbird.net> 2011-08-18 12:18:07 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #29)
> Sam: My plan is to remove the sections that are superseded by Aryeh's draft.
> That will be happening regardless on the WHATWG side. I'm happy to leave these
> sections in the W3C side (unmaintained, of course) if the working group would
> like, but I assume that won't be necessary since only Shelley seems to want
> that course of action and she's not a working group member. Your advice on the
> matter is welcome. In the absence of specific advice one way or the other, I'll
> just remove the text in both the WHATWG and W3C copies.
> 
> On the long term (years, not months) I expect the text will eventually be
> merged back in, since it is an integral part of HTML and HTML's APIs, but
> that's mostly an administrative matter for the future. At this juncture having
> the text merged in is impractical.

I am a member of the community. You all deemed HTML5 mature enough for LC and
for comments from the community. Evidently, this wasn't so.

I have no problems with removing this section, and keeping it out of HTML5,
where it never did belong.

The issue is where the split document will go, and this shouldn't be your
decision at all. It should be the group's decision. Or perhaps a W3C leadership
decision.

Aryeh wants to put the document into the new W3C incubator purely because of
copyright issues, if I understand him correctly. If I understand the W3C
incubator FAQ, the same copyright policy applies to the incubator effort as
does the WG efforts. 

The real key is, is Google going to be a problem from now on? If the W3C is
going to have problems with Google and copyright issues, then the community
that will implement the specs (and not just browser companies) will most
definitely have problems with copyright issues--or more appropriately, patent
issues. 

So I have no objections to removing the section from the document--even though
supposedly the HTML5 editor seems to be indifferent to the opinion of a member
of the web community at large. But where the text goes does matter, and why it
was moved to the incubator project is especially important. 

I'm assuming the new incubator project was intended to open up working areas
and encourage participation from people like me, who are not members of the
W3C. I don't believe it was intended because a member company such as Google
may want to play fast and loose with patents at some point.

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