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[Bug 9214] Allow role="presentation" img as conformance Criteria

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Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2010 16:44:11 +0000
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--- Comment #27 from Leif Halvard Silli <xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no>  2010-09-07 16:44:10 ---
(In reply to comment #26)
> (In reply to comment #24)
> > (In reply to comment #22)

> >    4. alt="" WITHOUT an accompanying role="presentation" triggers a
> > non-critical validator warning recommending use of role="presentation" (but
> > @alt="" remains technically valid)
> > 
> >       INTENT: To encourage the use of role=presentation - by encouraging (but
> > not requiring) its use even when alt="" is used.
> This is *not* met. However, you haven't raised any issue/bug about it either,
> or have you?

The authors of the ARIA 1.0 specification have created an XHTML 1.1 based DTD. 
One should think that if it was crucial that an <img> without any @alt
attribute was considered valid, whenever the <img> has role="presentation",
then the ARIA 1.0 authors would have offered a DTD which allowed you to ommit
the @alt attribute when role="presentation" is present. 

However, as you can verify for yourself, by pasting the the mini-document below
into the validator at http://validator.w3.org, the DTD for XHTML1.1 +ARIA 1.0,
does not allow you to do that. Thus either the Consensus Document is simply not
specific enough to avoid all possible confusion about what it suggests (that's
what I think) or they simply go further than the ARIA 1.0 spec allow itself to

Docuent Example with ARIA 1.0 DTD:

<!DOCTYPE html SYSTEM "http://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/schemata/xhtml-aria-1.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en">

<p> <img src="foo" role="presentation" /></p>


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