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[Bug 8833] New: Please allow the title of the spec currently known as "HTML5" to be changed to an accurate title.

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Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 02:45:33 +0000
To: public-html-bugzilla@w3.org
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           Summary: Please allow the title of the spec currently known as
                    "HTML5" to be changed to an accurate title.
           Product: HTML WG
           Version: unspecified
          Platform: PC
        OS/Version: Windows XP
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P2
         Component: HTML5 spec bugs
        AssignedTo: dave.null@w3.org
        ReportedBy: dean@dean.org.nz
         QAContact: public-html-bugzilla@w3.org
                CC: ian@hixie.ch, mike@w3.org, public-html@w3.org

Please allow the title of the spec currently known as "HTML5" to be changed to
an accurate title. I've made formal objections to the current title since 2007,
I've made proposals to fix the title, I've complained many times about this to
many different people associated with the WHATWG and the W3C. People have
always tried to stop the title from being changed, and unfortunately they have
been successful.

The spec never was HTML5
The spec never was going to be HTML5
The spec is not HTML5 now
The spec never will be HTML5 in the future
HTML5 is just part of the spec.
And more importantly, there can not ever be a spec called "HTML5" as HTML5 can
never be separated from XHTML5 and DOM5 so you have to either list all the
technologies in the title or have a title that is not in the spec, such as
"WEB5", "WEBAPPS5" or similar. At the moment, the W3C and WHATWG are continuing
to publish a spec that has three completely different meanings for the same
acronym (HTML5) I don't know how these standards bodies can think this is not a
problem. There are all sorts of confusion in the spec that cannot be cleared up
until the title is fixed. I haven't bothered to fix these issues as I know it's
a lost cause while we have three HTML5s associated with the same document.

And when I say "Please allow" I mean DON'T let certain people (I'll name names
if I really have to) block this problem from being fixed as this is what has
always happened in the past.

Now, if the W3C is happy to have this mess sorted out, I'd be happy to make a
proposal and submit it to the group within the next week. But I wont be doing
that until I know that it's going to be considered seriously as the last time I
did this, a certain person in a position of authority blocked my proposal from
being discussed and/or adopted by the HTML WG so I'm not wanting to have my
time wasted again by people that are prepared to corrupt the process of the

And I'm aware why some people have tried to stop the title from being changed
before, so keep that in mind if you reply as I don't want my time or the groups
time wasted by people with hidden agendas deceiving the group.


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