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http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=7475 Alexandre Alapetite <alexandre@alapetite.fr> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |alexandre@alapetite.fr Status|RESOLVED |REOPENED Resolution|WONTFIX | --- Comment #4 from Alexandre Alapetite <alexandre@alapetite.fr> 2009-11-15 22:51:57 --- Dear Ian, With regard to @rel={top,index,contents,toc}, I believe that the situation before HTML5 was pretty clear and with a good consensus, but the current HTML5 draft introduces some severe incompatibilities (please note that I have no issue with @rel="first" as currently defined in HTML5, so the title of this bug could be updated AFAIC). In order to illustrate this fact, I have attempted to summarise the major information in the following draft table: http://alexandre.alapetite.fr/divers/vrac/20091115_HTML_link_rel.html The problems in the current version of HTML5 can IMHO be resumed to the following: 1) The traditional concepts of "table of contents" and "index" (i.e. a list of names or topics that are referred in a book, etc., usually arranged at the end of a book in alphabetical order) have disappeared in HTML5, while they exist in HTML4, HTML3.2, are used in the wild (also in other W3C documents), and backed up by several implementations, all agreeing. (See the above table for details) 2) Those two traditional concepts of "index" and "table of contents" have been merged into the traditional concept of "top" or "home", as defined in HTML3.2 and implemented in e.g. Opera, SeaMonkey, etc. There is also a good consensus in the interpretation of "top" or "home". 3) Against all definitions, this traditional concept of "top" or "home" has been renamed "index" in HTML5. The current definition of "index" in HTML5 ("leading to the document that is the top of the hierarchy") has simply nothing to do with an index (as defined in an English dictionary, or HTML4, HTML3.2, etc.). Therefore, I urge you to reconsider this chapter, for which I propose the following changes. A) (6.12.3.17.1) Rename this concept "top" instead of the erroneous "index", and remove "index", "contents" and "toc" from this concept. Maybe add "home" as a synonym. B) Reintroduce the traditional concept of "index" (i.e. a list of names or topics that are referred in a book, etc., usually arranged at the end of a book in alphabetical order), or in the worst case just drop it from the specification. C) Reintroduce the traditional concept of "Table of Contents" (i.e. a list of the main points or information in a book, usually at the front of the book), or in the worst case just drop it from the specification. Make "toc" a synonym. D) (Detail) Maybe add "parent" as a synonym of "top". Should it be necessary, I would be willing to contribute my services to improve this chapter, or create documents summarizing the current situation as I have just attempted with http://alexandre.alapetite.fr/divers/vrac/20091115_HTML_link_rel.html Thank you for your consideration. Best regards, Alexandre Alapetite Technical University of Denmark http://alexandre.alapetite.fr P.S.: Thanks to Leif Halvard Silli for his contributions. -- Configure bugmail: http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the QA contact for the bug.
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