[Bug 24642] New: Should it be conforming to use role=presentation for tables that have border=1?

https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=24642

            Bug ID: 24642
           Summary: Should it be conforming to use role=presentation for
                    tables that have border=1?
           Product: HTML WG
           Version: unspecified
          Hardware: PC
               URL: http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/tabular-d
                    ata.html#attr-table-border
                OS: All
            Status: NEW
          Keywords: a11y
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P2
         Component: HTML5 spec
          Assignee: dave.null@w3.org
          Reporter: xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no
        QA Contact: public-html-bugzilla@w3.org
                CC: eoconnor@apple.com, faulkner.steve@gmail.com,
                    mike@w3.org, public-html-admin@w3.org,
                    public-html-wg-issue-tracking@w3.org,
                    rubys@intertwingly.net,
                    xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no

See: http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/index.html#attributes-1
And: http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/tabular-data.html#attr-table-border

According to the first URL, the table@border attribute is an  ”Explicit
indication that the table element is not being used for layout purposes”.
(Second URL basically repeats the same message.)

As the spec stands, it does not make sense to combine border=1 with
role=presentation since the two attributes send different messages to user
agents regarding whether the table is a layout table or a data table. E.g. to
visual users, the table could easily be perceived as a data table, while for AT
users it would probably be perceived as a layout table.

Hence I ask the editors to consider whether it should be non-conforming to
combine role=presentation and (conforming) border attribute values on the same
table.

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Received on Thursday, 13 February 2014 01:05:12 UTC