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Re: CfC: Publish three heartbeat drafts as WDs

From: Charles McCathie Nevile <chaals@yandex-team.ru>
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 00:12:30 +0400
To: "Robin Berjon" <robin@w3.org>, "Maciej Stachowiak" <mjs@apple.com>, "Paul Cotton" <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>, "Michael(tm) Smith (mike@w3.org)" <mike@w3.org>, "public-html-admin@w3.org" <public-html-admin@w3.org>, "HTML Accessibility Task Force" <public-html-a11y@w3.org>, "team-html-a11y@w3.org" <team-html-a11y@w3.org>, "W3C WAI Protocols & Formats" <w3c-wai-pf@w3.org>, "Sam Ruby" <rubys@intertwingly.net>
Message-ID: <op.w29jq40cy3oazb@chaals.local>
On Wed, 11 Sep 2013 04:05:48 +0400, Sam Ruby <rubys@intertwingly.net>  

> On 09/10/2013 07:36 PM, Janina Sajka wrote:
>> Dear All:
>> I'm very disappointed to note that longdesc is still listed in the
>> obsolete (Sec. 11) of the HTML 5.1 nightly. Is this also the case with
>> the current crop of heartbeats?
>> Surely everyone is aware that the TF's longdesc extension Las Call
>> expires Monday next?
>> Can we please, please have this resolved immediately? As agreed?
> I encourage you to write a bug report.

See Janina's pointer to the bug report.

> I'm confident that such will be handled appropriately.

Me too. And if not, I happen to know where Robin lives. I am sure I can  
use that information to expedite resolution if it should be really  

Seriously, this looks like we just dropped balls over the summer. But I  
agree with Janina, it's getting frustrating.


> As to what we agreed to previously, here is what plan 2014 states:
>    If such a specification obtains consensus and meets the proposed CR
>    exit criteria by 2014Q2 it could be folded back into the core HTML
>    spec by that time.
> http://dev.w3.org/html5/decision-policy/html5-2014-plan.html
>> Janina
> - Sam Ruby
>> Janina Sajka writes:
>>> Hi, Robin:
>>> Robin Berjon writes:
>>>> Hi Janina,
>>>> On 24/05/2013 18:12 , Janina Sajka wrote:
>>>>> I will withdraw my objection at this time in the interest of  
>>>>> preserving
>>>>> and furthering the comity that has arisen among us since Plan 2014.
>>>> Thank you.
>>> Well, it's not my intent to throw a major monkey-wrench into the works.
>>> Perhaps we should have inquired about prioritization and communicated
>>> our expected timelines before.
>>>>> While I do not think anyone is intentionally delaying here, continued
>>>>> delay does exaserbate W3C accessibility messaging. Also, we're now
>>>>> quite likely to have a Last Call for HTMl Image Description  
>>>>> published before
>>>>> another HTML heartbeat is published.
>>>> What is your time frame for LC? We're not really constrained as to
>>>> the minimal amount of time between heartbeats.
>>> We're expecting LC late June. We further expect to prepare our CR
>>> implementation report during LC, so that we may well go to PR late
>>> August/early September, skipping CR.
>>>>> Is there any reason it's unreasonable to expect this bug to be  
>>>>> resolved
>>>>> before the NEXT publication milestone?
>>>> No, I wouldn't think so. As I said, it hasn't been handled either
>>>> high or low priority. I (and as far as I know, the other editors
>>>> too) tend to proceed by fixing blocks of bugs that are on related
>>>> topics. We can certainly handle this bug soon.
>>> Thanks, Robin. That would be helpful.
>>> Janina
>>>> --
>>>> Robin Berjon - http://berjon.com/ - @robinberjon
>>> --
>>> Janina Sajka,	Phone:	+1.443.300.2200
>>> 			sip:janina@asterisk.rednote.net
>>> 		Email:	janina@rednote.net
>>> Linux Foundation Fellow
>>> Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup:	http://a11y.org
>>> The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
>>> Chair,	Protocols & Formats	http://www.w3.org/wai/pf
>>> 	Indie UI			http://www.w3.org/WAI/IndieUI/

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