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Re: CfC: to publish Encrypted Media Extensions specification as a First Public Working Draft (FPWD)

From: Glenn Adams <glenn@skynav.com>
Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2013 16:33:54 -0700
Message-ID: <CACQ=j+dEuKqbQNB-J=QEnFPHR40=WkKaiFExUx4fdxCp5V7xxA@mail.gmail.com>
To: Sam Ruby <rubys@intertwingly.net>
Cc: Henri Sivonen <hsivonen@iki.fi>, "L. David Baron" <dbaron@dbaron.org>, Jet Villegas W3C <w3c@junglecode.net>, "public-html-admin@w3.org" <public-html-admin@w3.org>, "Robert O'Callahan" <robert@ocallahan.org>, "Tab Atkins, Jr." <jackalmage@gmail.com>
On Saturday, February 2, 2013, Sam Ruby wrote:

> On 02/02/2013 05:21 PM, Glenn Adams wrote:
>> On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 6:41 AM, Sam Ruby <rubys@intertwingly.net
>> <mailto:rubys@intertwingly.net>> wrote:
>>     On 02/02/2013 08:11 AM, Glenn Adams wrote:
>>         On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 12:52 AM, Henri Sivonen <hsivonen@iki.fi
>>         <mailto:hsivonen@iki.fi>
>>         <mailto:hsivonen@iki.fi <mailto:hsivonen@iki.fi>>> wrote:
>>              On Feb 1, 2013 10:26 PM, "Glenn Adams" <glenn@skynav.com
>>         <mailto:glenn@skynav.com>
>>              <mailto:glenn@skynav.com <mailto:glenn@skynav.com>>> wrote:
>>               > Since I represent a commercial video provider here, I
>>         can speak
>>              authoritatively that they are interested in providing
>>         services to
>>              the widest array of users in the widest array of platforms,
>>         etc.
>>              Yet, in practice, people can observe e.g. Voddler saying
>>         that their
>>              licensors (major studios) won't let them target desktop
>>         Linux even
>>              though Linux has Flash Player available and they use Flash
>>         Player
>>              for DRM on Windows and Mac.
>>         On the other hand, I was just speaking with a VP of one of the
>>         six major
>>         studios yesterday, who assured me that they wished to ensure their
>>         content was interoperable on Android and other Linux platforms.
>>     But no announced, concrete plans?
>> No, but this studio (and others) are active in the DECE/Ultraviolet (UV)
>> work, and he expressed hope that support for a UV CDM would be developed
>> and supported on Android/Linux as well as other OS platforms.
> I see that statement as being one quite different than your previous
> statement.
> There is no question that Android is based on Linux.  But as Ubuntu is a
> quite popular Linux Distribution, when hearing "Android and other Linux
> platforms", I would conclude that it would be highly likely that Ubuntu
> would be concluded.  Which would be a significant change.  My experience
> with Dish Anywhere and Netflix is that both work on Android but neither
> work on Ubuntu (or RedHat or Suse or...).
> When I hear "Android/Linux as well as other OS platforms", I hear a
> statement that does not address Henri's point.  Many DRM solutions today
> work on "Android/Linux as well as other OS platforms"... what Henri was
> commenting on was licensors preventing deployment on desktop Linux
> operating systems.

That's not what I heard, however, I did not ask specifically. I beleive it
is premature to reach a conclusive answer about what will or will not be

>  My conclusion is that there is fairly widespread interest in the studios
>> in having EME move forward.
> That is clear.  It is also clear that there is widespread objections. The
> chairs are actively working with W3C Management to determine how best to
> proceed.
> - Sam Ruby
Received on Saturday, 2 February 2013 23:34:22 UTC

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