- From: Mark Sadecki <mark.sadecki@gmail.com>
 - Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2015 11:54:13 -0400
 - To: HTML Accessibility Task Force <public-html-a11y@w3.org>
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   [1]W3C
      [1] http://www.w3.org/
                               - DRAFT -
                          HTML A11y TF telecon
02 Apr 2015
   See also: [2]IRC log
      [2] http://www.w3.org/2015/04/02-html-a11y-irc
Attendees
   Present
          Janina, Judy, Plh, chaals, +1.617.319.aaaa,
          Joanmarie_Diggs, ShaneM, David_MacDonald, paulc, marks,
          LJWatson, BrianKardell, JF, Liam, Cynthia_Shelly
   Regrets
   Chair
          Janina Sajka
   Scribe
          MarkS
Contents
     * [3]Topics
         1. [4]Identify Scribe
            http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/index.php?title=Scr
            ibe_List
         2. [5]Additional agenda?
         3. [6]April F2F Update; TPAC
         4. [7]Participation in TF F2F in Europe
         5. [8]HTML AAM Publication Update -- Janina
         6. [9]CfC on CfCs; Work Statement Update -- Janina,
            Chaals, Paul
         7. [10]Canvas 2D Level 1 Progress -- Rich, Janina
         8. [11]Alt Doc Update -- Shane, Liam
         9. [12]TF's EME Bug -- Leonie
            http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2
            015Mar/0076.html
        10. [13]Tracking A11y Related Bugs -- Cynthia
            http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2
            015Mar/0075.html
        11. [14]WebVTT
        12. [15]TF Open Actions http://w3.org/wai/pf/html/track
        13. [16]Other Business
     * [17]Summary of Action Items
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   <janina> trackbot, start meeting
   <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Accessibility Task Force
   Teleconference
   <trackbot> Date: 02 April 2015
   <scribe> scribe: MarkS
Identify Scribe
[18]http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/index.php?title=Scribe_List
     [18] http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/index.php?title=Scribe_List
   <janina> Mark is it
Additional agenda?
   JS: We need to talk about Web VTT review
   ... hopefully JF will be on the call when we bring it up
   PC: I sent an email to the TF to contact the Media TF for
   discussion items at the F2F
   JS: We already have an item for that
April F2F Update; TPAC
   JS: Registration closes today. If you are planning to go and
   have not done it yet, register
   ... Paul has sent a request for agenda topics related to media
   CN: we have transcript to talk about. Working on wiki and work
   items to structure discussion
   ... we have a bug, leonie looked and says its alright
   ... no other direct issues as far as I know
   JS: That is my understanding as well
Participation in TF F2F in Europe
   <chaals> [19]Poll for possible meeting dates in europe
     [19] http://doodle.com/umhcvicyabcta7m8
   JS: Chaals put out a poll for participation in a TF F2F in
   Europe
   ... also a discussion about meeting during TPAC
   ... i expect to meet April 30th deadline for responding RE TPAC
   participation
   ... hope to have a TF meeting as part of TPAC
   ... should start thinking about participating in Japan
   <Zakim> chaals, you wanted to say we have transcript and a bug
   on EME and to
   CN: If we have a PF meeting and the same time as a HTML
   meeting, most people in here are in both groups. Would need
   more coordination.
   ... may not be a need for a TF meeting if that is the case
   JS: PF would probably meet at the same time as WebApps, not
   HTML
   LW: RE: April meeting, Brian Kardell was interested in
   participating remotely to discuss panels. Wondering if that is
   a possibility?
   PC: i would ask cynthia
   ... i can't see why not, all the rooms have the ability
   ... just need to setup zakim
   ... RE: conflicts with PF and HTML meeting times. If you think
   about it, a lot of the work is happening in task forces. I
   think we would have simultaneous TF meetings going on during
   the WG meetings
   ... can schedule TF meetings on Thursday afternoon. Should
   solve problems of overlap
   ... could be a conflict for people who are in multiple TF's
   CN: That sounds like a great idea to me
   PC: would be helpful to get a commitment from the TF for
   participation.
HTML AAM Publication Update -- Janina
   JS: Slight delay in getting it published. Must get transition
   request in and approved, get announcement ready for FPWD. April
   7 is the target date.
   ... i personally think that date is reasonable
   PC: I agree
CfC on CfCs; Work Statement Update -- Janina, Chaals, Paul
   JS: Waiting for some language from Chaals and some staff work
   from Liam. Then the WG can run it through their processes.
   Bringing this in sync with parent group operating procedures
   and cleaning up out of date references
Canvas 2D Level 1 Progress -- Rich, Janina
   JS: I plan on informing the canvas-api list of the recent
   development with Chrome on implementation support.
Alt Doc Update -- Shane, Liam
   JS: Next steps are to approve publishing this as the final
   publication. Start a call for consensus.
   <liam> [20]http://www.w3.org/2015/03/alt-draft.html
     [20] http://www.w3.org/2015/03/alt-draft.html
   DM: is this document in sync with what is in HTML 5.0?
   JS: What we discovered is that this doc fully mirrored what was
   in HTML 5 and didn't see a point in that, so we created a stub
   document that would allow us to park it permanently. Then any
   edits we want in the spec would be filed as bugs on HTML
   <paulc> Do we have a list of filed bugs?
   JS: I will try to get the CfC out today
   PC: Do we have a list of the filed bugs on alt?
   JS: do we have them filed
   SM: not against HTML5
   PC: are we going to move them off the alt doc component, move
   them to HTML5 component...
   LQ: Create bugs against 5.1.
   PC: ED will be used to describe the changes you want, like a
   written proposal
   JS: I think we are looking for a coherent read from top to
   bottom, hard to do because the spec is so big
TF's EME Bug -- Leonie
[21]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2015Mar/0076
.html
     [21]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2015Mar/0076.html
   <chaals> [+1
   JS: there is a response from Media TF in response to the bug we
   filed. Leonie provided a nice summary. I think we are satisfied
   with response
   ... JF since the response was addressed to you, can you reply
   and thank them?
Tracking A11y Related Bugs -- Cynthia
[22]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2015Mar/0075
.html
     [22]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2015Mar/0075.html
   JF: yes
   JS: Cyns talked last week about how to track a11y bugs against
   IE. Reminded me that we don't have a formal process for doing
   such work for other UAs
   ... We used to have Bug Triage. I don't expect we need to
   reconstitute that at this point. Not a lot of bugs left. If we
   see this change, we may consider it.
   <LJWatson> +1
   JS: should use the TF call to handle it now. We should have a
   Wiki page to track issues against user agents, tracking support
   and implementation.
   +1
   <David> +1
   scribe: Liam, can you set that up if everyone agrees?
   LQ: anyone on the TF can create a wiki page
   JD: I like the idea, conceptually. However, I feel like editing
   a wiki is a lot more work than is needed. Bugzilla has a
   feature to track bugs in other Bugzilla instances. Not sure how
   to set it up. Mozilla and Webkit both use Bugzilla. Not chrome
   though
   BK: I think it would be valuable for developers (outside this
   group) to have access to this information, too.
   ... what has worked out really well for HTML5 is caniuse.com
   <chaals> [chaals leaves]
   <chaals> [+1 to bkardell]
   BK: very popular reference for developers.
   CS: does bugzilla allow tracking against other databases?
   JD: other bugzilla instances, not others AFAIK
   +1 for a caniuse for accessibility
   <bkardell_> MarkS I can definitely reach out to them
   JF: I reached out to caniuse.com a few years ago. they said
   they would be interested, but they would need someone to
   provide the entire dataset.
   ... at CSUN a couple years ago, we attempted to do this and
   while it got off to a great start, it lost steam
   CS: I'm hoping our web driver work will help with that.
   JS: can we start with a wiki page? Liam?
   LQ: yes
WebVTT
   JS: Need to look at WebVTT, more specificity on that. I know JF
   has some interest in that. I think we need more expertise.
   Perhaps we don't have to worry about depth as much as just what
   is covered, what is not
   JF: I think I could do that in the next couple weeks. There is
   also a WebVTT2 that is being worked on. Provided by MediaLabs?
   I can take a look at it. I believe some representatives will be
   at the F2F in Seattle. Should be able to comment on it then
   JB: What they are looking for from us is a review of their
   current draft, to make sure it satisfies MAUR
   JS: not WebVTT2, just the current version
   JB: yes
   <paulc> Where is the TF wiki with the new features we want to
   work on?
   <Judy> judy: Thierry Michel should be available for questions
   if needed while you're going through the MAUR & WebVTT review
   JS: we can talk on Monday at Media a11y TF
   JF: yes
   SM: yes
   <Judy> Thierry is staff contact for that WG
   <liam>
   [23]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/Browser_Bug_Trackers
   created ]
     [23] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/Browser_Bug_Trackers
   JB: suggest reaching out to Thierry if you have questions, and
   then potentially inviting him into a discussion if you identify
   gaps.
   <janina> zkim, next item
TF Open Actions [24]http://w3.org/wai/pf/html/track
     [24] http://w3.org/wai/pf/html/track
   JF: 7 open actions
   ... 3 past due
   ... Steve Faulkner about contacting James Nurthen re imagemaps
   ... next is on me
   JS: reassign to me.
   ACTION-308 reassigned to Janina
   <JF> [25]http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/308
     [25] http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/308
   JF: We can close the one on Leonie RE EME
   ... ACTION-189 on lang attribute and ACTION-204 are on Cyns,
   due next week
   ... last one is a proposal on menus, due later this year
Other Business
   [adjourned]
Summary of Action Items
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