- From: Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net>
- Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2014 23:05:13 -0400
- To: "Michael[tm] Smith" <mike@w3.org>
- Cc: James Craig <jcraig@apple.com>, Daniel Weck <daniel.weck@gmail.com>, "public-html-a11y@w3.org" <public-html-a11y@w3.org>, "Ted O'Connor" <eoconnor@apple.com>
It is not news that there are strong opinions concerning both longdesc and ARIA-DescribedAt. However, it would be best for us all to carefully double-check, and even document our assertions about the positions of entities other than our own before representing them categorically in public email. Furthermore, it is arguable, and I do assert that the DescribedAt addition to ARIA-1.1 did indeed have consensus at the time it was introduced. Need I remind everyone that consensus is NOT unanimity according to published W3C process? The definition we are called to work with is set forth at: http://www.w3.org/2005/10/Process-20051014/policies.html#Consensus Janina Michael(tm) Smith writes: > James Craig <jcraig@apple.com>, 2014-07-25 19:21 -0700: > > > As the current editor of the ARIA spec, I added @aria-describedat to the > > ARIA 1.1 working draft because it gathered majority vote in the working > > group, despite my objections and lack of group consensus. > > @aria-describedat has all the same problems as @longdesc, but also breaks > > an established and generally accepted ARIA pattern of not modifying the > > mainstream UI of the host language. Accessibility-conscious user agent > > developers from Mozilla and Google raised similar objections to > > @aria-describedat. > > There's something pretty odd about a decision-making process that results > in an intended-for-accessibility feature getting added to a spec over the > objections of the spec's own editor and over the objections of > accessibility-conscious reps/developers from Apple, Mozilla, and Google. > > Some might say it's a sign of that decision-making process being pretty > seriously broken and in need of being replaced. > > --Mike > > -- > Michael[tm] Smith http://people.w3.org/mike -- Janina Sajka, Phone: +1.443.300.2200 sip:janina@asterisk.rednote.net Email: janina@rednote.net Linux Foundation Fellow Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) Chair, Protocols & Formats http://www.w3.org/wai/pf Indie UI http://www.w3.org/WAI/IndieUI/
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