Re: Footnotes in HTML5.1

Hi Janina

The code I see you used in the linked file is an anchor element, with a
<sup> element.
<a href="#note1">talking book,<sup>1</sup></a>

and the on the footnotes at the bottom the look like this:

<a href="#noteref1">1.)</a> Text of footnote

Also, they are currently dead links because the href is going to the wrong
place, because the doc has been moved to your server....

It's an ok way to do footnotes, but it is time consuming, for Johnny lunch
box webmaster, and prone to errors.

The proposal is for a <note> element not an <a>. The note element does't
exist currently. I'm proposing it as a simple programmatic way to do
footnotes in html5.1.  It would overcome the problem of dead footnote
links, which the file you posted has... and would be accessible out of the
box, like the <button> element.

Cheers,

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On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 4:18 PM, Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net> wrote:

> This markup was available in HTML 4. I used it in a paper I wrote back
> around 1999/2000 while I was still at the American Foundation for the
> Blind (AFB). I have a copy of it at:
>
> http://rednote.net/Surpassing_Gutenberg.html
>
> It uses this syntax.
>
> Janina
>
> David MacDonald writes:
> > Today on the call regarding the Accessibility Task Force wish list for
> > HTML5.1 I suggested a footnote element. Janina mentioned that footnotes
> > work in Daisy players very well. I took an action item to lookup the
> syntax
> > in Daisy...  I find the following 2013 post by Prashant Verma, a Daisy
> > trainer and member of the consortium:
> >
> > The footnote reference looks like this - <noteref idref="#footnote-0"
> > class="Footnote">0</noteref>
> >
> > And the footnote text is-<note id="footnote-0" class="Footnote">0 This is
> > the explanation of the highlighted term</note>
> >
> > In the above code "0" may be replaced with any other number. When
> replaced
> > by "1" it will look like this.
> >
> > <noteref idref="#footnote-0" class="Footnote">1</noteref> <note
> > id="footnote-0" class="Footnote">1 This is the explanation of the
> > highlighted term</note>
> >
> > Source: See the second post http://www.daisy.org/forums/18892
> >
> > And the Daisy 3 standard says this about regions.
> >
> > REGION
> >
> > *region (CDATA, IMPLIED):* Specifies the region (defined in layout in
> > document head) in which the text will be presented. References the id of
> > the appropriate region. All types of text objects that are to appear in
> the
> > same rendering space would be assigned the same value for region. For
> > example ... notes (e.g., footnotes) might be displayed in a separate area
> > at the bottom of the screen (region="notes").
> >
> > Chaals wondered if this could be explored as a wider use of longdesc,
> > Cynthia said Microsoft was working on moving some of the MS Word footnote
> > syntax into ARIA 1.1 (But that would report to the API, it wouldn't have
> > any jumping or opening behaviour)
> >
> > I think it would be great to have a working <noteref> and <note> elements
> > that opens (and/or jumps) to the footnote and returns the user back to
> > footnote.
>
> --
>
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