- From: Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>
- Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2014 18:12:47 +0100
- To: David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca>
- Cc: HTML Accessibility Task Force <public-html-a11y@w3.org>, "public-html-admin@w3.org" <public-html-admin@w3.org>, Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>, Sam Ruby <rubys@intertwingly.net>, Mark Sadecki <mark@w3.org>, Janina Sajka <janina@a11y.org>
- Message-ID: <CA+ri+Vk9Ax+KjUq+OuWqDeLTOsOD+p42ew0xS=LAKp4cmwATEg@mail.gmail.com>
HI Dave, thanks sorry I should have said before, could people file bugs - thanks! file a bug - https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/enter_bug.cgi?comment=&product=HTML%20WG&component=CR%20alt%20techniques%20%28editor%3A%20Steven%20Faulkner%29 -- Regards SteveF HTML 5.1 <http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/> On 21 April 2014 15:49, David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca> wrote: > Hi Steve > > A couple a thoughts... > > 1) I think screen reader users should be explicitly informed that > information below is the alternative... rather than deducing it from the > heading above the alternative. > > alt="Flowchart: Dealing with a broken lamp."> > > I would add "full description below" > > alt="Flowchart: Dealing with a broken lamp. Full description below"> > ======== > > alt="Bar chart: Average rainfall in millimetres by Country and Season." > > Same here > > alt="Bar chart: Average rainfall in millimetres by Country and Season. > Table of data below" > > > 2) I'm not sure of "more than a couple of sentences" being the guidance > for providing a long text alternative. I've always understood it to be if > it requires more than about 100 words, OR if there is a necessity to > structure it, then a long and structured description should be provided. A > couple of sentences means about 20 words. Do we really want people to start > requiring a long description if the alt is more than 20 words? Remember, > the general public will take this document as the final word... I would > like other's thoughts on this. > > 3) Also I think we need an example of the long description immediately > following the image, where it is hidden in an expandable tag such as the > Details/Summary (or a JavaScript fallback) .... every developer I know > resists long text following an image because they don't want to give up the > page real estate. > > Cheers, > > David MacDonald > > > > *Can**Adapt* *Solutions Inc.* > > Tel: 613.235.4902 > > LinkedIn <http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidmacdonald100> > > www.Can-Adapt.com > > > > * Adapting the web to all users* > * Including those with disabilities* > > If you are not the intended recipient, please review our privacy policy<http://www.davidmacd.com/disclaimer.html> > > > On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>wrote: > >> >> here is an updated draft of the alt text standalone doc I have been >> threatening to prepare but not actually delivered on until now. >> >> Its still needs a little work, but is almost ready. This is intended to >> be published as a note. >> >> HTML5: Techniques for providing useful text alternatives >> >> W3C Editor's Draft 20 April 2014 >> >> http://rawgit.com/w3c/alt-techniques/master/index.html >> >> -- >> >> Regards >> >> SteveF >> HTML 5.1 <http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/> >> > >
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