- From: Adrian Roselli <Roselli@algonquinstudios.com>
- Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2014 16:11:45 +0000
- To: "HTML Accessibility Task Force (public-html-a11y@w3.org)" <public-html-a11y@w3.org>
The minutes for today's TF call are online:
http://www.w3.org/2014/04/10-html-a11y-minutes.html
Note that "next item" is the wrong command to call each next agendum item as it does not reflect the item in the minutes. My apologies.
Text version:
10 Apr 2014
See also: [2]IRC log
[2] http://www.w3.org/2014/04/10-html-a11y-irc
Attendees
Present
Janina, Judy, paulc, Adrian_Roselli, LJWatson,
Cynthia_Shelly, Billy_Gregory, [IPcaller], chaals,
PaulC, Aardrian, CynthiaS, Leonie, BillyG
Regrets
Mark
Chair
Janina
Scribe
aardrian
Contents
* [3]Topics
1. [4]Identify Scribe
http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/index.php?title=Scr
ibe_List
* [5]Summary of Action Items
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<trackbot> Date: 10 April 2014
<janina> Meeting: HTML-A11Y Task Force Teleconference
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<Billy_Gregory> Zakin, [IPcaller] is me
PC: Sam and I have been getting feedback on whether WG needs to
continue using Decision Policy
... Chairs announced at F2F is that new work mode being put
into place immediately.
... Big change, no CfC for heartbeats, just stay on top of
consensus and keep publishing.
... Will stop pushing CfCs through WG, but will still use for
FD, LC, etc. as defined by process doc.
... Spent time checking status of normative docs (DOM4, HTML5,
Canvas) and checking testing results.
... Just sent email to Public-HTML outlining changes for what
is at risk for HTML 5.0..
... Hope to publish update in next few weeks outlining what has
been removed.
... Chairs will try to send HTML5 to LC in June to keep on
track to deliver Rec by 4th quarter 2014.
... Talked about HTML5.1 for a while, sentiment to speed up the
schedule for 5.1.
... Maybe 5.1 could take 18 months instead of 2 years.
... PF schedule for ARIA 1.1 might be aligned with HTML 5.1
schedule.
... Decided to mark Ruby as at-risk for LC due to interop
evidence, don't want to hold up 5.0.
CS: Mentioned in meeting that a11y TF and PF would be
interested in timeline changes.
PC: Ad hoc 30min discussion about contentEditable. No quick
summary, web apps / HTML overlaps.
... A11y folks may have interest. Was added to agenda last
minute. Check the F2F minutes for a note.
CS: Initial discussion around more API-based approach to
editing.
... Keyboard shortcuts available in some browsers, not others,
etc.
<paulc> HTML WG F2F minutes on content editable:
[7]http://www.w3.org/2014/04/09-html-wg-minutes.html#item11
[7] http://www.w3.org/2014/04/09-html-wg-minutes.html#item11
CS: API-based minimizes those issues.
... Also suggested in addition to shortcuts, consistent/common
visual controls.
... General consensus was more API based.
JS: Was there a sense that would happen in 5.1 timeframe?
CS: I didn't hear a timeline.
PC: Web Apps meeting today and tomorrow, API meeting probably
happening in Web Apps. Watch over next 48 hours.
CM: Technically similar to issue with date inputs. Different
controls, expectations. Complex issues - but WebApps tends not
to set time schedules for releases.
<paulc> If the HTML WG does HTML 5.1 before 2016 then this
might impact any plans of the TF or PF WG to align with the
HTML 5.1 schedule.
JS: Highlights: no longer CfCs in HTML for heartbeat
publications,
... HTML 5.1 might move down rec track faster than in plan
2014,
... implications for ARIA are an open question as its timeline
maybe cannot catch up.
PC: If TF or PF plan was for a 2016 publish date, may want to
stay with that plan.
... That means you might end up being aligned with HTML 5.2
instead of 5.1.
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JS: Steve F is prime mover, need his input.
PC: Let's take it offline for now and update Steve F on work
plan.
JS: Second heartbeat, HTML Mappings, we discussed in ARIA
editors call yesterday.
... We'll see state of document when heartbeat date is set.
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JS: We may have had a decision on last week's call to move
forward, some feedback on list.
PC: At F2F, only discussion was Mark's update. He is on board
with Candidate LC Draft.
... Mark reported that editors are still trying to confirm
everything in document is correct.
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JS: I believe everything we expected to port from 5.1 is now in
5.0.
... Bug we were awaiting from WAI has been filed, referenced in
agenda.
[8]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=25264
[8] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=25264
<paulc> ACTI
<paulc> ACTION-227?
<trackbot> ACTION-227 -- Mark Sadecki to Email group for next
bug triage meeting -- due 2014-01-30 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [9]http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/227
[9] http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/227
<paulc> ACTION-228?
<trackbot> ACTION-228 -- Steve Faulkner to Produce a list of
the bugs relating to the alt guidance changes -- due 2014-02-06
-- OPEN
<trackbot> [10]http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/228
[10] http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/228
<paulc> [11]http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/239
[11] http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/239
<paulc> ACTION-239?
<trackbot> ACTION-239 -- Charles McCathie Nevile to Put a
review of the html alt guidance on the agenda, and call for
consensus to stop work on the original guidance note -- due
2014-04-10 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [12]http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/239
[12] http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/239
PC: This is one of the 10 documents HTML WG needs to push
forward. Will copy Janina and Chaals as it moves forward.
JS: I think we have 2 questions wrapped in alt.
... 1. is the TF happy with the notion of a pointer from that
section of the spec to additional resources?
<paulc> ACTION-238?
<trackbot> ACTION-238 -- Charles McCathie Nevile to Ensure that
review of alt guidance page (not in the html spec) is on the tf
agenda -- due 2014-04-10 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [13]http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/238
[13] http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/238
JS: 2. the disposition on Steve's document as an HTML WG note.
PC: That second action is 238. Need to find if WG is
comfortable with landing page prior to publishing heartbeat/
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CN: Have an item to write up exit criteria.
... We will have tests to show 2 UAs meet the "must"
requirement in the spec.
... For spec editing, Mark has that on his to-do list.
... Expect to put spec into CR.
... Think we haven't formally agreed that test suite represents
all the "must" requirements.
JS: No longer looking for zero-length CR time. Will go into CR
for some short period of time.
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LW: Haven't met for 2 or 3 weeks, but are nearly at end of
going through 5.0 bugs. 3 left?
... Now have 3 lodged under TF component in Bugzilla.
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JS: Request for editorial improvements in the spec, brought up
at CSUN. Any activity?
... The people behind it may not be here today.
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JS: Close to wrapping 5.0, probably need to start to focus on
5.1.
... Includes looking at 5.0 features at-risk, accessibility.
... There is a wiki for things we are looking to achieve in
5.1.
[14]http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/Main_Page
[14] http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/Main_Page
Summary of Action Items
[End of minutes]
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