Minutes: HTML A11Y TF Telecon, 13 May 2013

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    [1]W3C

       [1] http://www.w3.org/

               HTML Accessibility Task Force Teleconference

13 Jun 2013

    See also: [2]IRC log

       [2] http://www.w3.org/2013/06/13-html-a11y-irc

Attendees

    Present
           David_MacDonald, John_Foliot, Janina_Sajka,
           Michael_Cooper, Mark_Sadecki, Cynthia_Shelly, Judy

    Regrets
    Chair
           Janina_Sajka

    Scribe
           Mark Sadecki

Contents

      * [3]Topics
          1. [4]Identify Scribe
             http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/index.php?title=Scr
             ibe_List
          2. [5]Alt Edits Status Update
             http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2
             013Jun/0014.html
          3. [6]Longdesc Status Update
          4. [7]HTML5 testing
          5. [8]Subteam Reports: Bug Triage; AAPI Mapping; Media;
          6. [9]Wiki, TF pages, similar administrative items
          7. [10](Overdue) Actions Review
             http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/open
          8. [11]Other Business
      * [12]Summary of Action Items
      __________________________________________________________

    <trackbot> Date: 13 June 2013

    <janina> Meeting: HTML-A11Y Task Force Teleconference

Identify Scribe
[13]http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/index.php?title=Scribe_List

      [13] http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/index.php?title=Scribe_List

    <scribe> scribe: Mark Sadecki

    <scribe> scribeNick: MarkS

Alt Edits Status Update
[14]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2013Jun/0014
.html

      [14] 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2013Jun/0014.html

    JS: Doesn't seem to be much conversation around SteveF's work
    on ALT. We should take a look and provide feedback

    MS: I'll take a look today to see if I can provide any
    feedback.

    DM: Do we file bugs?

    JS: Either comment on list or add comments to existing bugs.

    MS: here is the link to Steve's current status on what needs
    review:
    [15]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2013Ju
    n/0013.html

      [15] 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2013Jun/0013.html

Longdesc Status Update

    JS: Any new bugs filed on Longdesc since publication? Progress
    on 3 bugs filed during CfC?

    MS: No new bugs, not sure if chaals has and a chance to address
    the 3 filed during CfC?

    ... should we send out a reminder with one week to go in
    comments?

    JS: Won't hurt.

HTML5 testing

    [16]https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/44061/html-a11y-tf-html5-tes
    ting-review/results

      [16] 
https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/44061/html-a11y-tf-html5-testing-review/results

    MS: emails sent out, all responses are in. 7 responses. Most
    agreeable time is 2PM ET
    ... I will send out an email formally inviting everyone to the
    call for next Thursday 6/20

    JF: will have a hard time making the meetings, but want to
    participate as much as possible. Please include me via email.

    JS: don't need to test alt, but do need to test canvas.

Subteam Reports: Bug Triage; AAPI Mapping; Media;

    MS: Bug Triage reviewed 6 new bugs, none to be tracked by TF.
    Reviewed a11yTF bugs that need to be closed for CR per Robin:
    [17]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?keywords=CR%2C%2
    0&keywords=a11ytf&keywords_type=allwords&query_format=advanced&
    bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&componen
    t=HTML5%20spec&product=HTML%20WG&list_id=15460
    ... wanted to discuss Bug 21722
    [18]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=21722

      [17] 
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?keywords=CR%2C%20&keywords=a11ytf&keywords_type=allwords&query_format=advanced&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&component=HTML5%20spec&product=HTML%20WG&list_id=15460
      [18] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=21722

    ... Ambiguous/incorrect wording regarding placeholder attribute
    of input elements

    MS: here is the relevant section of the spec:
    [19]http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/forms.html#the-placeholder-attri
    bute

      [19] http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/forms.html#the-placeholder-attribute

    CS: The placeholder attribute is included in the name
    calculation, at least in IE.

    ... name calculation happens at page load.

    ...could be a mapping guide problem.

    JF: could be more of an issue for UAAG

    MS: we will continue to follow and may want to add comments to
    this bug.

    DM: I will create some tests to see check current
    implementations.

    CS: AAPI has been busy with other things.

    ...haven't had a chance to get together.

    JS: Media team has met.

    ...i will be sending out an email introducing JF and Dominic
    Mazzoni from Google regarding what to do with transcript. John
    can you send me those two URLs?

    JF: I have some specific questions for Dominic regarding
    transcript and controls.

    ...hard to find a time for us to eat with strongest
    contributors living in Ireland and Austrailia

    ...can probably start around the 18th of July

    MS: Looking back at my notes from this call I see that we
    decided Tuesdays or Thursdays at 6PM ET would be a good time
    for media sub-team meeting.

    JF: I believe that is 11PM in Ireland and 8AM in Austrailia...

    ... can get an email thread going beforehand.

    JS: one of the items we need to address is to process comments
    filed on media related bugs.

Wiki, TF pages, similar administrative items

    DM: i just put together some tests regarding placeholder text
    with JAWS 14 in IE and Firefox. If there is placeholder and no
    label it will read the value of the placeholder.

    JF: we need to make sure the spec clarifies the intent of this
    attribute and how UA should implement it.

    JS: this may not require any language change in this spec.
    perhaps in others, like UAAG and WCAG.

    DM: works in NVDA as well.

(Overdue) Actions Review
[20]http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/open

      [20] http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/open

    [21]http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/open

      [21] http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/open

    JS: Please take a look at these and close any items that have
    already been addressed.

Other Business

Summary of Action Items

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