- From: Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>
- Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 00:03:51 -0800
- To: Mallory van Achterberg <stommepoes@stommepoes.nl>
- Cc: Jay Munro <jaymunro@microsoft.com>, HTMLWG WG <public-html@w3.org>, HTML Accessibility Task Force <public-html-a11y@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CA+ri+Vnan9sWGMwA13io=utSSqTS_QLJsK1Y1BCchyx91qHnLQ@mail.gmail.com>
Hi Jay, Mallory I have updated the note after reviewing your feedback now reads [1]: Use of the placeholder attribute as a replacement for a label can reduce > the accessibility and usability of the control for a range of users > including older users and users with cognitive, mobility, fine motor skill > or vision impairments. While the hint given by the control's label is > shown at all times; the short hint given in the placeholder attribute is > only shown before the user enters a value. Furthermore, placeholder text > may be mistaken for a pre filled value, and as commonly implemented the > default color of the placeholder text provides insufficient contrast and > the lack of a separate visible label reduces the size of the hit region > available for setting focus on the control. > further feedback welcome! [1] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/forms.html#the-placeholder-attribute regards SteveF On 25 February 2013 23:39, Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com> wrote: > thanks to you both. I will update the note taking into account your > feedback. > > regards > SteveF > > > On 25 February 2013 23:37, Mallory van Achterberg < > stommepoes@stommepoes.nl> wrote: > >> On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 12:06:33AM +0000, Jay Munro wrote: >> > --- suggestion >> > Note: The placeholder< >> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/forms.html#attr-input-placeholder> >> attribute should not be used as a replacement for a label< >> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/forms.html#the-label-element> >> because the placeholder text disappears when the field gets focus. This can >> reduce accessibility and usability of the input control for users who view >> documents using screen readers or other assistive technology, or need a >> little more time to see a prompt. >> >> Not only because the placeholder text disappears. Some users may never >> see the light-grey-on-white placeholder, some users of AT may never hear >> it, we lose the larger clickable area labels offer, and users may see >> placeholders as default values and consider them pre-filled and skip them >> without closer look. >> >> Examples of more reasons. >> >> --Mallory >> > > > > <http://www.paciellogroup.com/resources/wat-ie-about.html> >
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