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Re: Call for Review: HTML5 Image Description Extension (longdesc) Last Call

From: Doug Schepers <schepers@w3.org>
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 23:36:20 +0000
Message-ID: <520D65EB.9050403@w3.org>
To: James Craig <jcraig@apple.com>
CC: Charles McCathie Nevile <chaals@yandex-team.ru>, "public-html-a11y@w3.org Force" <public-html-a11y@w3.org>, Jeanne Spellman <jeanne@w3.org>, Jan Richards <jrichards@ocadu.ca>
Hi, folks–

On 8/15/13 6:26 PM, James Craig wrote:
> On Aug 14, 2013, at 10:30 AM, Charles McCathie Nevile wrote:
>> On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 02:22:00 +0400, James Craig wrote:
>>> On Aug 13, 2013, at 9:31 PM, Charles McCathie Nevilewrote:
>>>
>>>> In the case of SVG we currently have a disconnect between
>>>> theory and reality. Although my text on SVG accessibility is
>>>> (after more than a decade) pretty solid on how to make the DOM
>>>> accessible, in practice I believe that is only useful for the
>>>> relatively small proportion of users who have VoiceOver.
>>
>>> Doug Schepers says this works pretty well with NVDA, too. Maybe
>>> JAWS?
>>
>> Which browser? (I am very glad to hear this, by the way. I just
>> haven't tested in a while, and last I did the results were that
>> accessibility was very "limited").
>
> I think he was using Firefox during his OWC preso last month. Not
> sure.

I was using Chrome+ChromeVox during that presentation, but have also 
used Firefox+FireVox in past presentations.

I don't have NVDA, because I don't have a Windows machine. But I met 
briefly with a set of people (Glenda Sims, Estelle Weyl, Katie 
Haritos-Shea, and Denis Boudreau) who did some basic SVG-in-HTML testing 
with multiple browsers + NVDA/JAWS/VoiceOver, with generally positive 
results on reading SVG <title> elements.

We didn't record the results, and I didn't examine the tests in detail, 
so I won't speak to the robustness of this testing, but anecdoteally, 
they all seemed to behave reasonably (the UAs, not the people :P).

Again, this is why we need comprehensive testing... the plural of 
"anecdote" is not "data".

Regards-
-Doug
Received on Friday, 16 August 2013 13:49:13 UTC

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