- From: Mark Sadecki <mark@w3.org>
- Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2013 15:02:55 -0400
- To: HTML A11Y TF Public <public-html-a11y@w3.org>
Hello,
Thanks to everyone who attended the HTML Accessibility Task Force Teleconference today 08 August 2013. The minutes are available in HTML and plain text below:
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[1]W3C
[1] http://www.w3.org/
HTML-A11Y Task Force Teleconference
08 Aug 2013
Attendees
Present
Mark_Sadecki, janina, Cynthia_Shelly, SuzanneT,
John_Foliot, Rich_Schwerdtfeger, paulc
Regrets
David_MacDonald, Chaals, Judy, Leonie, SteveF
Chair
Janina_Sajka
Scribe
SuzanneT
Contents
* [2]Topics
1. [3]Identify Scribe
http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/index.php?title=Scr
ibe_List
2. [4]Canvas 2D Testing
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2
013Jul/0052.html
3. [5]HTML5 testing
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2
013Jul/0053.html
4. [6]Longdesc Status Update
5. [7]TF Work Statement CFC
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2
013Jul/0044.html
6. [8]Alt Edits Completed
7. [9]HTML 5.1 Objectives -- Open Discussion
* [10]Summary of Action Items
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<scribe> scribe: SuzanneT
Identify Scribe
[11]http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/index.php?title=Scribe_List
[11] http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/index.php?title=Scribe_List
JS: perhaps we have quorum to run the call
<janina> we've done that!
Canvas 2D Testing
[12]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2013Jul/0052
.html
[12] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2013Jul/0052.html
Charles is promising work on tests
No bugs filed on longdesc
HTML5 testing
[13]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2013Jul/0053
.html
[13] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2013Jul/0053.html
<MarkS>
[14]http://www.w3.org/2013/08/html5-testing-summary.html
[14] http://www.w3.org/2013/08/html5-testing-summary.html
summary outlines position & recommended next steps
request for volunteers or more research
no responses so far
MS: system colors - file bug if want to pursue
media queries - 2 paragraphs - concern that those will be used
for a11y & we wanted to test
Marks-MacBook-Pro:RawLineEdit msadecki$ but there's a separate
spec for that, so recommend no action
RS: agreed
MS: only IE makes title accessible
spec doesn't say it needs to be keyboard accessible
group: title also important as fallback for AT
JS: 5.1 might be the target for the bug
cynthia: WCAG might want to look at existing & new title
techniques
group: title issue will be addressed as a bug
MS: lang interoperability issues - need more info about the
issues
group: we need to look at the accessibility APIs
<MarkS> ACTION: for Cynthia_Shelley to investigate what MS
products do with lang attribute
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nicknames at <[15]http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/users>.
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<MarkS> ACTION: cyns to investigate what MS products do with
lang attribute
<trackbot> Created ACTION-189 - Investigate what MS products do
with lang attribute [on Cynthia Shelly - due 2013-08-15].
RS: so, reactions to the lang attribute are up to the user
agent
PC: good research would be to search xml:lang
there are open bugs on this
such as make lang and xml:lang synonyms
JS: core question - do we have a pipeline into the apis
janina asked Cynthia to look on Microsoft, she agreed
RS: check forAPI mappings
JS: we need to know that across the APIs
RS: analysis needed for 5.1
Longdesc Status Update
MS: don't need to pursue
RS: if there are strong native semantics, make sure aria
attributes does not get mapped
need to check specific items: radio button with role="button"
should not lose checked/unchecked state
table summary is going away, what is the expected behavior
group: most negative thing that happens, is not validate
Cynthia: there should be WCAG techniques about table summary
folks will want a simple replacement for summary
JS: do we or do we not test what 5.0 spec says about summary
group: spec recommends using detail within caption, but there
are problems with that
caption labels a table
details inside caption let's you expand/collapse and anything
can be in details
group; question is how would that map to an a11y API
JS: we need a separate discussion on whether there should be
bugs filed on author guidance
MS: next issue caption element: to pursue, we need to demo
interoperability issues
are there any caption-related bugs?
will search bugzilla
next is button element with a lot of new attributes
need to provide tests and examples to see if there are
interoperability issues - think of what those might be
next is links: need to demo interop issue to pursue
what is a link appears in fallback content, will it be mapped
correctly to ally API
other elements besides canvas?
RS: probably mainly canvas
MS: new link types might cause a11y issues
would need to demo issues
group: type is a new attribute
MS: next is tag clouds - this would be a bug or a
recommendation, not an area for testing
JS: longdesc = HTML extension spec in last call sponsored by
this group
RS: is there any way that it might be added to the 5.0 spec?
JS: a month ago, decided we would ask for it to be folded back
into the spec, when the time came
RS: main element status: test to see that there's an API
mapping
JS: we have general agreement on MS's recommended dispositions
MS: regarding testing, is there something else bug triage group
should do, given low activity, can they help with testing
TF Work Statement CFC
[16]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2013Jul/0044
.html
[16] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2013Jul/0044.html
JS: PF & HTML sponsor this and there are different expectations
as to what a teleconference can do
due to this, the work statement should clarify
can we raise objections in the teleconference?
can we make decisions in teleconference if we document it
propose email discussion on this by next Thursday
PF wants to allow TF to state how they wish to work
Alt Edits Completed
canvas 2D testing:
MS: trying to find people to help
JS: priority for this meeting: go to topic 8
HTML 5.1 Objectives -- Open Discussion
JS: think about what we want in 5.1, that we don't have in 5.0
1. where the perfection points are: revisit aria mappings;
media; etc
2. additional items like a calendar picker should work
2. additional items like a how calendar picker should work
please think about this type of item and make suggestions to
the list
RS: we need to sync up with aria 1.1
things like dialog being implements, but difficult for web
developers, make use of dialog
JS: meet next week, but following week MS is out & following
week is "geek week"
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: cyns to investigate what MS products do with lang
attribute
[NEW] ACTION: for Cynthia_Shelley to investigate what MS
products do with lang attribute
[End of minutes]
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