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PF Rejects TF's Work/Consensus CFC [Was: Call for Consensus: Procedure updates]

From: Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net>
Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2013 16:41:12 -0400
To: "public-html-a11y@w3.org" <public-html-a11y@w3.org>, W3C WAI Protocols & Formats <public-pfwg@w3.org>, html-admin Cc: Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>, team-html-a11y@w3.org
Message-ID: <20130807204112.GI7574@concerto.rednote.net>

The WAI Protocols and Formats Working Group considered approval of the
HTML-A11Y Task Force CFC referenced below during its regular
teleconference on 7 August. Discussion of this item during the PF
teleconference is logged at:


In addition a CFC for the PFWG on this question was posted at:



The PFWG does not agree to the Work Statement and Consensus Policy as

PF notes that the role of teleconferences in the HTML-A11Y Task Force is
not discussed in these documents. Specifically, the role of resolutions,
actions and comments logged during teleconference discussions is not
explained as these do, or do not pertain to reaching TF consensus.

*	PF notes that the TF's two sponsoring organizations, the PFWG
*	and the HTML-WG have different expectations and policies
*	regarding teleconferences with respect to achieving WG consensus. For this reason alone PF believes the role of teleconferences in TF deliberations should be explictly described.

*	PF further notes that TF teleconferences have customarily
*	formally logged resolutions following teleconference discussion
*	whenever a documented consensus position of the TF was desired.
*	These resolutions were, in turn, also confirmed either by email
*	CFC or WBS survey. This has been TF practice since the TF's
*	inception. PF believes the TF's intention in this regard going
*	forward should be explicitly stated.

*	Without explicit statements regarding the role of the
*	teleconference in TF decisioning, it is unclear to PF whether
*	objections, and other comments logged during teleconferences,
*	are to be regarded as comments on a CFC.

The PF requests the TF to add appropriate language to explain the role
of its teleconferences in its decisioning process with specific
reference to the above points.

Janina Sajka, Chair
Protocols and Formats WG

Charles Nevile writes:
> On Thu, 18 Jul 2013 06:29:03 +0400, Charles McCathie Nevile
> <chaals@yandex-team.ru> wrote:
> >This is a call for consensus on the proposal
> >
> >The Task Force wishes to adopt the work statement at
> >http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/html-tf-draft.html and the
> >decision-making procedures proposed at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2013Jun/att-0085/consensus-procedures.html
> >
> >Silence will be taken as assent, but positive responses are
> >preferred. Please reply before midnight in the last time zone, on
> >Monday July 29.
> This call has passed. We will therefore move through the processof
> adopting the new procedures.
> cheers
> Chaals
> -- 
> Charles McCathie Nevile - Consultant (web standards) CTO Office, Yandex
>       chaals@yandex-team.ru         Find more at http://yandex.com


Janina Sajka,	Phone:	+1.443.300.2200
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