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Re: aria-describedat

From: Silvia Pfeiffer <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 13:28:24 -0700
Message-ID: <CAHp8n2mwDSdmewXmqSetQui4p5jfzzdrAE2nxpw+HOi5c4uzwQ@mail.gmail.com>
To: John Foliot <john@foliot.ca>
Cc: david bolter <david.bolter@gmail.com>, Leif Halvard Silli <xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no>, Charles McCathieNevile <chaals@opera.com>, Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis <bhawkeslewis@googlemail.com>, Richard Schwerdtfeger <schwer@us.ibm.com>, faulkner.steve@gmail.com, jbrewer@w3.org, George Kerscher <kerscher@montana.com>, laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com, mike@w3.org, public-html-a11y@w3.org, w3c-wai-pf@w3.org, W3C WAI-XTECH <wai-xtech@w3.org>
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 12:58 PM, John Foliot <john@foliot.ca> wrote:
> Quoting Silvia Pfeiffer <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com>:
>> While a nice idea, @hasurl is a broad concept and doesn't state what
>> you're supposed to find behind the url. I believe what we're after is
>> something a bit more semantic - a link that takes a user to a Web page
>> that contains (mainly textual) metadata
> Not MetaData, real, human-readable textual data that describes in more
> detail what the *foo* is that it is attached to.

Metadata = data about data.
long description = a long description (i.e. data) about the element (i.e. data)

>> JAWS and NVDA seem determined to not want to introduce a new
>> user-interaction for @longdesc (which I think is fair enough, seeing
>> as it's an attribute that's only used for accessibility).
> Minor correction here: JAWS *has* introduced a new interaction for
> @longdesc. When JAWS encounters the @longdesc attribute in an <img>, it
> announces the @alt text and then states: "Press ALT plus Enter for Long
> Description" - and then pauses waiting for the user to tab (continue) or hit
> enter (explore).

You mean: hit alt-enter?
In any case: this is an interaction that the screenreader creates and
not one that the browser creates. That's the key difference.
I guess, we could ask if browsers would agree to using alt-enter as
the recommended interaction for the new attribute.

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