- From: John Foliot <john@foliot.ca>
- Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 15:55:50 -0700
- To: "'David Singer'" <singer@apple.com>, <janina@rednote.net>
- Cc: "'Sean Hayes'" <Sean.Hayes@microsoft.com>, "'Silvia Pfeiffer'" <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com>, '"'xn--mlform-iua@målform.no'"' <xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no>, <rubys@intertwingly.net>, <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com>, <mjs@apple.com>, "'Paul Cotton'" <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>, <public-html-a11y@w3.org>, <public-html@w3.org>
David Singer [mailto:singer@apple.com] > > It is part of the video *element*; just as the separate tracks that are > composed are. Correct, however in <video> we have many different parts, that come from different places: we have both sub-titles and closed caption files for example: two discrete files, "merged" as a video in the UI (along with the actual video file). However, the caption file and the sub-title file themselves are different and we have strong semantics to express that this text file is @kind="caption" versus @kind="subtitle". Further I can even express that those assets can be of different languages (lang="fr"). Yet somehow, while we are allowing for all of this granular distinction of text files, "images are images" is what we are also getting as an argument. If images are images, then time-stamp files are time-stamp files, right? They are, after all, all part of the <video> right? >From the a1ly perspective that I and others are arguing, the imagery that is being merged inside of the <video> element also needs strong semantics, and the mechanism to be able to convey in a textual means some understanding of those various images is what we and our users are asking for, in much the same way that we can convey that "this" text file has certain properties that are different from "that" textual file. There is no argument that the <video> element is a specific and unique element, but it is comprised of many different "child" elements that are merged in the UI. I had previously argued for a <firstframe> element as a child to <video> in the same way that <source> and <track> are also children of <video>, so that we could apply strong semantics, but that got shot down. I am ambivalent on how we get the functional requirement achieved, but intransient on what that requirement is. JF
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