- From: Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis <bhawkeslewis@googlemail.com>
- Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 10:08:48 +0000
- To: Charles Pritchard <chuck@jumis.com>
- Cc: John Foliot <john@foliot.ca>, Silvia Pfeiffer <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com>, David Singer <singer@apple.com>, janina@rednote.net, "'xn--mlform-iua@målform.no'" <xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no>, rubys@intertwingly.net, laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com, mjs@apple.com, paul.cotton@microsoft.com, public-html-a11y@w3.org, public-html@w3.org
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 7:55 AM, Charles Pritchard <chuck@jumis.com> wrote: > On 3/20/2012 11:18 PM, John Foliot wrote: >> >> This is the very same reason why aria-describedby cannot point to "hidden" >> text, as it too will be flattened to the same string text, using the same >> computational rules. > > > Can we get by with aria-describedby pointing to an embedded image tag? > > <video poster="poster.jpg" aria-describedby="poster" > longdesc="videolongdesc.html" aria-label="My video"> > <a href="videolongdesc.html" title="My Video"><img id="poster" > src="poster.jpg" longdesc="posterlongdesc.html" alt="My Poster" /></a> > </video> > > We're pointing aria-describedby at an element with special semantics: img > @longdesc, and it's not a display: none/@hidden element, > so we're not violating any laws there... though I would have no expectation > that the img could gain focus as fallback for video. I think that is not going to work since: 1. Image descriptions need to accessible via mainstream browser UI and ARIA is being implemented as an AT-only access mechanism. 2. Under the recent edits PFWG has been making, non-rendered fallback for <video> would arguably fall under "Elements, including their descendents, that have host language semantics specifying that the element is hidden, such as CSS display:none or visibility:hidden or HTML 5 hidden attribute". ("hidden" is not properly defined here ... I've provided some feedback requesting it be defined.) Consequently the @longdesc link would not be accessible even to AT. http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria-implementation/#exclude-elements -- Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis
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