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Re: CP, ISSUE-30: Link longdesc to role of img [Was: hypothetical question on longdesc]

From: Silvia Pfeiffer <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 11:36:26 +1100
Message-ID: <CAHp8n2meg9LG+j7aH4-Z9yqn856kVrcG_WChkkGD=C=oAZw4aQ@mail.gmail.com>
To: John Foliot <john@foliot.ca>
Cc: singer@apple.com, janina@rednote.net, xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no, rubys@intertwingly.net, laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com, mjs@apple.com, paul.cotton@microsoft.com, public-html-a11y@w3.org, public-html@w3.org
In either case, it's no more than an icon representing a label for the
video. There is no long textual description required - that time is
better spent skipping the video or watching it.


On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 11:30 AM, John Foliot <john@foliot.ca> wrote:
> Except for when your b) assertion is NOT a frame from the video, but a
> different, author chosen and supplied image, referenced via @poster. Yes, a
> longer text description is required for the media (as well), but users are
> asking for both, and we should be able to provide both. This is not an
> aria-label, this is a rich textual description of both visual assets.
> JF
> Sent from my Samsung Epic 4G Touch
> -------- Original message --------
> Subject: Re: CP, ISSUE-30: Link longdesc to role of img [Was: hypothetical
> question on longdesc]
> From: David Singer <singer@apple.com>
> To: John Foliot <john@foliot.ca>
> CC:
> silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com,janina@rednote.net,xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no,rubys@intertwingly.net,laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com,mjs@apple.com,paul.cotton@microsoft.com,public-html-a11y@w3.org,public-html@w3.org
> On Mar 20, 2012, at 17:04 , John Foliot wrote:
>> With all due respect David, that is not what a number of blind users have
>> told me: they want to know both, and they also recognize that the image,
>> while related to the video, may very well require its own textual
>> description.
>> I am somewhat frustrated when sighted engineers keep asserting what
>> non-sighted users need and want: have you bothered to ask *them*?
> I am not saying that they don't need the information. Of course they need
> the information.
> I am saying (a) that providing the 2-bits of the poster information without
> the kilobytes of video information has the wrong priorities and (b) we're
> confused if we think a still image of a stopped video is something distinct
> from the video.
> David Singer
> Multimedia and Software Standards, Apple Inc.
Received on Wednesday, 21 March 2012 00:37:15 UTC

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