- From: Hans Hillen <hans.hillen@gmail.com>
- Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 20:41:55 +0100
- To: public-html-a11y@w3.org
Hi all, Here are the minutes for today's bug triage call: http://www.w3.org/2012/01/11-a11y-bugs-minutes.html . The text-only version can be found at http://www.w3.org/2012/01/11-a11y-bugs-minutes.html,text and is also included at the end of this message. Regards, Hans Hillen, Accessibility Consultant / Developer TPG Europe Text only version start: [1]W3C [1] http://www.w3.org/ - DRAFT - SV_MEETING_TITLE 11 Jan 2012 [2]Agenda [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2012Jan/0055.html See also: [3]IRC log [3] http://www.w3.org/2012/01/11-a11y-bugs-irc Attendees Present Regrets Marco_Ranon, Gez_Lemon, Everett_Zufelt Chair SV_MEETING_CHAIR Scribe hhillen Contents * [4]Topics 1. [5]Fixed bugs 2. [6]Invalid bugs 3. [7]Fixed bugs 4. [8]Cynthia's questions * [9]Summary of Action Items _________________________________________________________ The passcode does not seem to work for me It either says "The conference is restricted at this time" or "the passcode is incorrect" either is fine by me IS there a limit to how many conferences there can be at a time? ah ok <scribe> scribe: hhillen Fixed bugs <MichaelC> drop item 6 <MichaelC> drop item 7 Invalid bugs <MichaelC> agenda: [10]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2012Jan/005 5.html [10] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2012Jan/0055.html [11]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=7601 [11] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=7601 MC: No Action LW: I will take out the a11ytf keyword [12]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10481 [12] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10481 MC: This one already has a tracker issue, so it's already escalated HH: It's associated with [13]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/129 [13] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/129 LW: Do we still need to track it if it has already been escalated? MC: That's something that should be discussed [14]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10482 [14] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10482 MC: Already assigned to a tracker issue [15]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10905 [15] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10905 MC: It's an old issue that dropped off the radar. We assigned it to Gregory but maybe we should assign it to Steve ... This should be part of the (possibly yet to be created) ARIA mapping tracker issue [16]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=11238 [16] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=11238 MC: Already has a tracker issue [17]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13326 [17] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13326 MC: Requester already marked it as invalid, so there's no need to track it. I'll remove the a11ytf keyword. [18]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13504 [18] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13504 MC: This should be a feature request [19]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13533 [19] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13533 HH: This is a user agent rather than an HTML feature MC: Should we remove the a11ytf keyword? LW: It's out of the scope of this spec so it should be filed somewhere else. MC: I'll remove the keyword. It's something that should be handled by UAAG [20]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13535 [20] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13535 HH: This is more related to WCAG than HTML MC: I'll ping Joshue, this bug should be added as a WCAG technique ... Removing the a11ytf keyword [21]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13562 [21] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13562 MC: I propose we reassign this to the HTML A11Y API component. ... That means assigning it to Cynthia ... Marking it as reopend [22]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13617 [22] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13617 MC: I think the HTML spec should address this, but I think it's more informative ... I don't want to escalate this bug but I also don't want to drop it HH: To me this is not an a11y issue but a privacy issue in general ... And not related to HTML5 in particular MC: I'll add a note that this is a valid issue but that we're not sure who the owner should be (perhaps UAAG or Privacy), or that it even belongs in HTML. The issue is not related to accessibility but to privacy in general. ... I can alert the person who is handling privacy about this bug [23]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13619 [23] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13619 MC: Some API from the Web Apps WG should handle this LW: An API would make sense if it's platform neutral MC: Maybe we can raise this as a question at the task force meeting tomorrow LW: It's really a feature request though, a request for something that's absent rather than broken ... So our options are treat it as a feature request or escalate it MC: We'll treat it as a feature request, it's relevant but does not need to be escalated now ... We could change the resolution state from 'invalid' to 'later' ... I'll make that change now [24]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13621 [24] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13621 MC: Escalating seems problematic, dropping doesn't quite sound right ... I'll assign it back to Greg but take of the a11ytf keyword, no other changes [25]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13647 [25] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13647 MC: We need to have a way of not dropping this. It's a relevant issue but related to MathML and not HTML ... We should remove the TF keyword, add verify invalid ... We may have to consider having another call on Friday ... We'll process Cynthia's issue now Fixed bugs Cynthia's questions MC: Bug 8000, Cynthia asked if it could be closed [26]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8000 [26] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8000 MC: We should stay focused on escalation, this one is already escalated and she 's asking about de-escalation. We should email back to Cynthia that we leave this to her judgement [27]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2011Dec/031 8.html [27] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2011Dec/0318.html MC: Cynthia's proposing to let this one go ... I'll remove the TF keyword [28]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2011Dec/031 7.html [28] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2011Dec/0317.html MC: There is nothing we can do for this, it should go back to the task force [29]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2011Dec/031 6.html [29] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2011Dec/0316.html 13512 MC: We agree with wont fix and out of scope 13659 MC: No objections 13662 MC: We should leave that on Cynthia's plate 13656 That would go back to the task force 13528 MC: That's fine, we don't need to do anything. ... We need to figure out if we should drop the a11ytf keyword for bugs that are already verified or that have been add to tracker 13531 MC: Are we going to escalate on an example? This might fall under the 'pick your battles' thing LW: Yes, the request is correct but probably not worth picking up right now The above applies to 13542 13548 MC: We're leaving this one alone 13549 MC: If Cynthia wants to escalate this she can do this on her own steam, the bug triage team does not see the need to escalate 13552 MC: I don't think we want to pursue this 13560 MC: We should put this on the list for tomorrow 13559 MC: NOt one for use to escalate [30]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2011Dec/032 9.html [30] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2011Dec/0329.html 13561 MC: Nothing for us to do 13562 MC: Nothing for us to do 13566 MC: Does not need escalating ... Friday we'll look at the fixed and needs info bugs ... 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