- From: Laura Carlson <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com>
- Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 08:05:24 -0600
- To: HTML Accessibility Task Force <public-html-a11y@w3.org>
- Cc: "E.J. Zufelt" <everett@zufelt.ca>, jason@accessibleculture.org, "Gregory J. Rosmaita" <gregory.rosmaita@gmail.com>
Also comments on Gregory's, Everett's, and Jason's proposal are at: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0223.html Best Regards, Laura On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Laura Carlson <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi all, > > I am forwarding the following message for the task force's information > regarding ISSUE-134: Provide tablist and tab states. > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0222.html > > I don't think it was copied to this list. > > Best Regards, > Laura > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com> > Date: Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 9:43 AM > Subject: ISSUE-134 change proposals review - Part 2 > To: "Oedipus@hicom.net" <Oedipus@hicom.net> > Cc: "public-html@w3.org" <public-html@w3.org> > > The following is a review of your change proposal for ISSUE-134: > http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/tablist_and_tab_states_for_menu_and_command_elements > > This review if provided in order to help WG members improve the > quality of their change proposals and to ensure that the WG Chairs > make their views known about the completeness of change proposals well > in advance of moving the related issues to the survey stage. > > The re-open request for ISSUE-134 from Tab provides some comments on > your change proposal that you might consider using as input to improve > the strength of your arguments: > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Jul/0235.html > > For example providing clarifications for the following items would > improve your change proposal: > >> 1. The "Details" part specifies that "User agents must manage focus >> for the tab controls by ensuring that only the selected tab is >> focusable, and that the remaining tabs in the tablist menu are not >> focusable.". However, the "Risks" section states without such an >> element, developers might make "only the selected tab in each >> tablist... focusable, meaning that the remaining tabs from each >> tablist will not be available or accessible to assistive >> technologies.". Is this a good or bad thing? >> >> 2. In "Details", "tabpanel" is listed as a state for <command> >> elements, but later text seems to suggest that it should be an >> attribute on <command> elements that takes an IDREF. >> >> 3. The CP doesn't indicate what the proposed changes should *do*. The >> intention is clearly to make it easier to do cardstacks, where you >> have a list of tabs associated with cards, and only one card is >> visible at a time (and its tab is specially indicated in the tablist). >> But nothing like that is specified anywhere. It appears that authors >> would still need to use script to create this kind of UI. > > In addition representatives of two user agents have explicitly stated > that they will not implement this change proposal when they responded > to the "CfC: Close ISSUE-134 tab-states by Amicable Resolution": > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Jul/0221.html > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Jul/0222.html > > In particular the comments about the following points might be used to > make your change proposals more complete: > > a) by providing more information on how your changes to <menu> and > <command> could be integrated with CSS, and/or > b) by providing further information on implementer's experience with > implementing the currently defined <menu> and <command> semantics and > showing that your additions integrate well with those implementations. > > You might consider obtaining feedback from other user agent > implementers if they are willing to implement your proposal. > > /paulc > HTML WG co-chair > > Paul Cotton, Microsoft Canada > 17 Eleanor Drive, Ottawa, Ontario K2E 6A3 > Tel: (425) 705-9596 Fax: (425) 936-7329 > > -- > Laura L. Carlson -- Laura L. Carlson
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