- From: Michael Cooper <cooper@w3.org>
- Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2012 23:01:26 -0500
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Minutes of the 9 February HTML Accessibility Task Force meeting are
posted to http://www.w3.org/2012/02/09-html-a11y-minutes.html and copied
below.
HTML Accessibility Task Force Teleconference
09 Feb 2012
Agenda
<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2012Feb/0040.html>
See also: IRC log <http://www.w3.org/2012/02/09-html-a11y-irc>
Attendees
Present
Cooper, Janina_Sajka, John_Foliot, Rich, Mike, paulc, Cynthia_Shelly
Regrets
Steve_Faulkner, Laura_Carlson
Chair
Mike_Smith
Scribe
MichaelC, MikeSmith
Contents
* Topics <http://www.w3.org/2012/02/09-html-a11y-minutes.html#agenda>
1. When to file change proposals?
<http://www.w3.org/2012/02/09-html-a11y-minutes.html#item01>
2. Reminder of the Deadline for reopen requests based on New
Information
<http://www.w3.org/2012/02/09-html-a11y-minutes.html#item02>
3. Meta name generator
<http://www.w3.org/2012/02/09-html-a11y-minutes.html#item03>
4. issue-192: title attribute (Steve)
<http://www.w3.org/2012/02/09-html-a11y-minutes.html#item04>
5. issue-193: remove CSS example (Steve)
<http://www.w3.org/2012/02/09-html-a11y-minutes.html#item05>
6. issue-194: media transcript (John)
<http://www.w3.org/2012/02/09-html-a11y-minutes.html#item06>
7. issue-199: ARIA-attribute processing requirements (MichaelC)
<http://www.w3.org/2012/02/09-html-a11y-minutes.html#item07>
8. issue-201: canvas fallback (Frank)
<http://www.w3.org/2012/02/09-html-a11y-minutes.html#item08>
9. issue-202: figcaption word-count (Judy)
<http://www.w3.org/2012/02/09-html-a11y-minutes.html#item09>
10. issue-131 caret selection notification
<http://www.w3.org/2012/02/09-html-a11y-minutes.html#item10>
11. April face-to-face meetings for HTML and WebApps
<http://www.w3.org/2012/02/09-html-a11y-minutes.html#item11>
12. Text alternatives
<http://www.w3.org/2012/02/09-html-a11y-minutes.html#item12>
* Summary of Action Items
<http://www.w3.org/2012/02/09-html-a11y-minutes.html#ActionSummary>
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<trackbot> Date: 09 February 2012
<MikeSmith>
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2012Feb/0063.html
<MichaelC> agenda:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2012Feb/0040.html
<MichaelC> scribe: MichaelC
When to file change proposals?
<paulc> Paul indicated that anyone with a change proposal they are
working on should definitely file what they by the on time date.
<paulc> There note should if possible indicate if there are any areas
they plan to continue to work on so that other WG member know if the CP
is complete or not.
<paulc> The Chairs are especially willing to see CPs evovle in the face
of input and/or discussion on the email list.
Reminder of the Deadline for reopen requests based on New Information
<MikeSmith>
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2012Feb/0063.html
ms: important to be aware of the deadlines in the above mail
Meta name generator
js: TF approved Steve's change proposal
http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposal/meta_name=generator_does_not_make_missing_alt_conforming
Leif has put out another one
ms: note some of the reopen requests need to be refined further
<scribe can't find pointer to Leif's CP>
there will be a preliminary review for well formedness of CPs
need to be prepared to respond quickly to issues raised
issue-192: title attribute (Steve)
-> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/notitlev2 Updated
title attribute CP from Steve
<note this is tagged to HTML-ISSUE-80, not HTML-ISSUE-192>
<MikeSmith> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/notitle_reality
js: this is a reconsideration request for HTML-ISSUE-80
ms: finding above CP as well
mc: think this is and OBE version but it's unclear
ms: think Steve is on top of pushing the CP to the HTML WG
js: important so will ping
js; has been reviewed by text sub-team, just editorial edits now
issue-193: remove CSS example (Steve)
ms: no CP available?
js: on Steve's plate, don't recall due date
issue was that markup in example was not a11y friendly
ms: so naive user might get misled even though it's informative
<MikeSmith> http://dev.w3.org/html5/status/issue-status.html
due 15 February 2012
issue-194: media transcript (John)
jf: there are two methods to pursue
<scribe missed details>
not sure whether to submit one, both as alternatives, what
js: both would work and we don't have preference between them, right?
jf: right, we need programmatic link to transcripts
can be done with @kind or with a new attribute
<scribe> new attribute might have more resistance
ms: discussed in media sub-team?
js: not recently
there has been pushback on new values for @kind
ms: should get others to support an approach and contribute to the CP
issue-199: ARIA-attribute processing requirements (MichaelC)
<MikeSmith> scribe: MikeSmith
<MichaelC> ARIA processing CP
<http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/ARIA_Processing>
MichaelC: view is that this CP is to clarify how to do lexical
processing of ARIA in HTML
... it copies info from elsewhre
... says what the syntax of the value of the role attribute is
... and some additional conformance requirements, then how to process it
... similiarly, for state and property attributes
... So I believe that should clarify the lexical processing requirements
for ARIA
<scribe> scribe: MichaelC
issue-201: canvas fallback (Frank)
rs: expect Frank to have a CP by this weekend
<richardschwerdtfe> http://www.w3.org/wiki/Canvas_hit_testing
due 16 Feb
ms: also need to move that to the HTML wiki
issue-202: figcaption word-count (Judy)
js: believe Judy still hopes to get this in
it's a nice-to-have, not essential
so if it's not in, we'll be ok
ms: would be nice to get it done so it's not hanging
<richardschwerdtfe>
http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/FocusRingTextBaseline
issue-131 caret selection notification
<http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/FocusRingTextBaseline>
<http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/FocusRingTextBaseline%3E>
<richardschwerdtfe>
http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/CaretSelectionRevised
rs: these are two canvas proposals
not alternatives, they work together to solve the problems
also think current state for focus ring isn't satisfactory yet
item 24 = April face-to-face meetings for HTML and WebApps
April face-to-face meetings for HTML and WebApps
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0057.html
ms: there's a proposal to have meetings between WebApps and HTML in
Silicon Valley 10 - 13 April 2012
question is whether this TF should meet then also
<MikeSmith>
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2012JanMar/thread.html#msg549
TF could meet on Monday 9 April, Saturday 14 April, or overlap with
WebApps on 10 - 11 April
mc: can poll for a) support a FtF this year, b) support joining this
batch of meetings, c) specific dates in that week preferred?
js: want to know about agenda
mc: picks up on some TPAC discussion about Web performance
also some API work, that's not currently in HTML but affects it
pc: HTML also needs to start thinking of what's next in HTML
<MikeSmith> related to HTML.next - http://www.w3.org/html/wg/next/markup/
js: makes sense for these meetings to take place
<MikeSmith> stuff that will be going into WebApps charter -
http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/wiki/CharterChanges#Additions_Agreed
pc: FtF at last TPAC was considered valuable
would run the HTML portion of this un-conference style
js: PF would be interested in this stuff anyways
value in TF joining in the forwards thinking
pc: also in poll should point out nearby religious holidays
Text alternatives
mc: have a change proposal that functions as part of a reopen request
for HTML-ISSUE-31, but don't feel confident in it
http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/Text_Alternatives_Ownership
js: Steve is working on another aspect that is more important
need to decide what to do with these in the next day and half
<scribe> meeting: HTML Accessibility Task Force
Summary of Action Items
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Michael Cooper
Web Accessibility Specialist
World Wide Web Consortium, Web Accessibility Initiative
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