- From: Leif Halvard Silli <xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no>
- Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 20:05:14 +0200
- To: Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis <bhawkeslewis@googlemail.com>
- Cc: Leif Halvard Silli <xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no>, John Foliot <john@foliot.ca>, Edward O'Connor <eoconnor@apple.com>, public-html@w3.org, HTML Accessibility Task Force <public-html-a11y@w3.org>
Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis, Wed, 22 Aug 2012 18:25:48 +0100: > On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 10:30 AM, Leif Halvard Silli: >> Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis, Wed, 22 Aug 2012 10:12:13 +0100: >>> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 9:56 AM, Leif Halvard Silli wrote: >>>> Perhaps Ted and Laura would like to update their proposals with same >>>> thing? Namely ask generators to not only add the new attribute but also >>>> add the key content mark in the @title? >>> >>> Today's AT allows users to configure whether they do or do not want >>> images without provided alternate text announced. I don't think we >>> should be trying to override user configuration … >> >> 3 questions: >> >> 1. So do AT in general treat @title and @alt as one and the same thing >> when it comes to that configuration? (To test whether it has any >> impact, one may use this page, which is what I used when writing the >> CP: http://malform.no/testing/html5/img-role-vs-alt/ ) So I still don't know the answer to this. >> 2. What if such an image contains @aria-label? > > What difference does it make? The images in question aren't likely to > have @aria-label. Well, of course, one may focus solely on "the images in question" ... >> 3. Does it really hurt if they are unable to no disable announcement of >> images that are key content? > > Screen reader users sometimes complain about verbosity and they use > configuration to tailor the verbosity of output to suit, so yes. > > AT vendors don't add these features just for the sake of it. ;) Of course not. There are very many presentational images without @alt. However, for 'the images in question', a generator should have relatively good control over whether the images *are* key content. Hence, I don't share the view that it is necessary to make sure that AT user can disable being told about them. -- leif halvard silli
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