- From: Laura Carlson <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com>
- Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2012 06:57:34 -0500
- To: "Michael[tm] Smith" <mike@w3.org>
- Cc: Chaals McCathieNevile <w3b@chaals.com>, HTML Accessibility Task Force <public-html-a11y@w3.org>, HTML WG <public-html@w3.org>
Hi Mike, On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 12:06 PM, Michael[tm] Smith <mike@w3.org> wrote: > Laura Carlson <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com>, 2012-08-07 10:54 -0500: >> Henri's scenario does not address the scenario I outlined. > > Which scenario is that, exactly? As Henri mentioned earlier in this thread it is frustrating that after such a long time people still do not understand the use cases. I agree. One use case: For the past 10 years Thelma has been teaching web design. One of the first lessons that she gives her students is to validate HTML with the W3C validator to be sure that it is error-free and that they have indeed examined each image. It makes a big impression on her students that text alternatives are mandatory not just for WCAG but for valid HTML as structurally complete image element enables those who cannot process images or who have image loading disabled obtain content. It also helps introduce the concept to accessibility. When accessibility is an integrated part of authoring good HTML, the outcome is more perceivable content. Her students fix errors. But they can't if they are not in formed about them. Another use case based on one Leif wrote a while back: Joe, an author is accustomed to take validator silence as a sign that the page is without errors. He assumes, from XHTML and HTML4 validation, that validation includes a check of every img element of the page. He is convinced of the usefulness of validation as an authoring tool, and regularly validates in order to check that his pages and templates conform to the basic @alt conformance that HTML validations is known to check. He is unaware that, within HTML5 he will receive no alt errors. It has never occurred to him that the validator hides errors from him. The silence leads Joe to think that his pages get checked for @alt, whereas the truth they are not. Now he misses errors that he would have caught and fixed. Finally - and ultimately - the silently silenced validator leads Joe's users - especially the AT users - to suffer because they increasingly get handed Web pages where easy fixable @alt conformance errors remains unfixed simply because the tool that Joe entrusted the task of reporting these errors, did - silently - not report them. Best Regards, Laura -- Laura L. Carlson
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