- From: Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis <bhawkeslewis@googlemail.com>
- Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2012 10:40:55 +0100
- To: Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>
- Cc: "Michael[tm] Smith" <mike@w3.org>, public-html@w3.org, HTML Accessibility Task Force <public-html-a11y@w3.org>, John Foliot <john@foliot.ca>
On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 5:04 AM, Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com> wrote: >> When a developer knows an image does not contain important content, >> they can use alt="" and it will not be exposed to the accessibility >> hierarchy. >> >> Equally when a developer does not know the alternative text for an >> image, they can omit alt and it *will* be exposed to the accessibility >> hierarchy. > > you are making a false assumption, this only works if the generator > image developer controls where the content is published. > The developer does not necessarily control the content of the page > the image is embedded in, so the developer cannot ensure that only > images that are significant have alt omitted. The developer cannot add an additional attribute only to images that *are* significant in ingested third-party content any more than they can provide appropriate text equivalents. I don't think it would be a good idea for developers to ingest images in third-party content with alt="", assume they nevertheless _might_ be significant, and override those provided text alternatives that hide the images by robotically adding an attribute to force exposure of all images in third-party content to the accessibility hierarchy, if that's what you're envisaging (?). > that is not the scope of the discussion, it has been identified that > providing an indication of the image significance to AT is an > important aspect for some involved We've already got negative signals to indicate that (don't include alt="", don't include role="presentation", don't include aria-hidden="true", etc.) We don't need a positive signal too, especially as it wouldn't solve the problem for ingested content as there would be no sensible way to apply it. -- Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis
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