- From: Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net>
- Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2012 14:53:26 -0400
- To: HTML Accessibility Task Force <public-html-a11y@w3.org>
Minutes from the HTML-A11Y Text Subteam teleconference of 17 April are provided below as text and are available as hypertext at: http://www.w3.org/2012/04/17-text-minutes.html W3C - DRAFT - HTML-A11Y Text Alternatives Subteam 17 Apr 2012 See also: IRC log Attendees Present Judy, Janina, John_Foliot, David_MacDonald, Laura_Carlson Regrets Leif, Laura Chair Judy Scribe janina Contents * Topics 1. check of deadlines this week 2. alt bugs: update on CP for HTML5 in-spec alt guidance bugs--gathering, explaining, rechecking whole doc 3. buggy alts: update on checking alt texts in HTML5 spec itself 4. issue 204: update on CP for re-alignment of HTML5 spec text about ARIA with actual ARIA provisions 5. issue 203: update on a specific CP 6. update on revised CP on meta-name generator * Summary of Action Items __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ <scribe> scribe: janina check of deadlines this week <JF> http://w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/204 <Judy> Issue 204 (ARIA hidden) has a deadline of April 18th, which is tomorrow <JF> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/203 <Judy> Issue 203 (allow alt and longdesc on video) had a deadline, and needs a revised CP <Judy> Issue 31-c (meta name generator) has a target date (not deadline) for an updated CP of April 20th <Judy> Issue (###) (buggy alt in the spec itself) by the next coordination meeting alt bugs: update on CP for HTML5 in-spec alt guidance bugs--gathering, explaining, rechecking whole doc dm: Spec has images with null alt, probably not WCAG conformant -- at least 4 <JF> +Q jb: We were going to do an internal pass plus Steve before forwarding on list, were we not? ... Do I understand you're finding missing alt sometimes, what about alt that is there? dm: Mostly good http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/single-page.html That's the single page current as of March last jb: Janina, were you going to coordinate with David on the write up of this? js: I could do that buggy alts: update on checking alt texts in HTML5 spec itself jb: Oops, we got our topic names reversed! ... This topic we just discussed ... So we're now on Alt Bugs js will proceed with help from the group to: 1> ascertain whether or not 4.8 re alt is by far the most extensive prescriptive guidance for authoring 2. Pont out that 4.8 and Steve's doc are not the same, and the WG needs to decide between the two 3. List out all the points of disagreement re guidance provided agreement on approach dm: alt descript of network diagram is really a longdesc, not an alt ... but in 8.2.1 same image is null alt text jf: And no describedby, or other issue 204: update on CP for re-alignment of HTML5 spec text about ARIA with actual ARIA provisions <JF> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/204 <laura> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/CorrectHidden jb: Laura has taken recent discussion into a proposed CP ... One question is whether JS wants to work from this or start another? <JF> +Q jb: What needed to get this done? jf: My action was to withdraw mine once we have a replacement in place ... Apologize for my loaded language, but the basics are there ... Not sure how to make my points if I withdraw my cp ... Maybe rather than ref my note, just rewrite to make lang more neutral and straight forward jb: Do you want to flag items? jf: Laura has captured the key items jb: Can I reverse the question? ... John, are there specific things that you want to make sure Laura and Janina don't drop? ... Important not to accuse someone of misunderstand or of intentionally misusing. Better to focus on the substance of what we need to put forward. [jb discussing with lc wiki editing strategies ... ] jf: I'm working on my own blog illustrating the points around hidden, including screenshots from ZoomText jb: Wondering how one maximizes reads of external blog evidence? ... Suggest providing the text of what is said even when providing a URI in the WBS ... Even though it sounds redundant, it's useful to include these things in a WBS response to make sure that the dots are connected for people jf: My goal is to have in hand evidence to backup our assertions jb: Agree and appreciate. My comments are to make sure people get it and actually look at it jf: My intent is to withdraw once there's another in place, is that still the group's understanding? [agreement in meeting] <Zakim> Judy, you wanted to suggest something about blogged evidence and to suggest *how* to provide linked off-survey evidence issue 203: update on a specific CP jb: Last meeting, John, I think you were wrestling with this? jf: Yes, my action is to rewrite ... Something along the lines of let video take longdesc ... I was out of town last week ... Now thinking of 2 cps ... One for alt, one for longdesc jb: Are you sure you need separate proposals? jf: That's what we said last week! js: I think we misunderstood each other last week <JF> http://w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposal/Issue203 update on revised CP on meta-name generator jb: We're now calling it issue-31c <Judy> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/Text_Alternatives/Meta_Generator_Decision_Comments jb: We have a skelaton from LC using Maciej's rejection ... ... My task is to add content re what they're missing ... We have also had use cases added that I'm unconvinced help. Would appreciate feedback on that Summary of Action Items [End of minutes] __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Found Scribe: janina Present: Judy Janina John_Foliot David_MacDonald Laura_Carlson Regrets: Leif Laura -- Janina Sajka, Phone: +1.443.300.2200 sip:janina@asterisk.rednote.net Chair, Open Accessibility janina@a11y.org Linux Foundation http://a11y.org Chair, Protocols & Formats Web Accessibility Initiative http://www.w3.org/wai/pf World Wide Web Consortium (W3C)
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