- From: Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net>
- Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 12:42:05 -0400
- To: HTML Accessibility Task Force <public-html-a11y@w3.org>
Minutes from the HTML-A11Y Task Force Text Subteam teleconference on
Monday 12 September are provided below in text and are available as
hypertext at:
http://www.w3.org/2011/09/12-text-minutes.html
W3C
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SV_MEETING_TITLE
12 Sep 2011
See also: IRC log
Attendees
Present
John_Foliot, Judy, Lynn
Regrets
Laura
Chair
SV_MEETING_CHAIR
Scribe
janina
Contents
* Topics
1. response(s) on longdesc
2. status/discussion meta generator proposal
3. status/discussion table summary
4. status/discussion fig caption
5. update from bug triage team regarding any incoming text-alternative-related bugs?
* Summary of Action Items
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<scribe> scribe: janina
response(s) on longdesc
judy: Will follow up this week on John's draft
janina, me too
judy: Other responses needed?
john: Matt has updated his no change cp following on suggestion from Sam that the original cp was weak
... either two responses? or single response to all issues?
<JF> Matt's CP: http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/LongdescZeroEdit
john: Thinking that rsponding to Matt's specific assertions would be useful
Judy, Usually direct and substantive response is best.
Judy, If concern about past interaction, perhaps 'reflections on' ton the TF list first?
John, Want to finish Jonas response first
John, Can suggest some pointers where the issues where previously responded
Judy, Let's keep it simple ...
Judy, I'll respond to your draft today, interested to see Janina's terse approach, etc
status/discussion meta generator proposal
Judy, Suggest Text call resolve and forward to TF now
status/discussion table summary
status is that Laura believes more use case development would be useful
Judy, Question may be whether the Josh proposal matches the questions from the Chairs table summary decision
Janina, Can look midweek
Janina, Will respond on line
<Judy> ACTION: janina read and respond to josh's table summary comments, and respond to Laura's comments [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2011/09/12-text-minutes.html#action01]
status/discussion fig caption
Judy, noting recent interesting suggestions from Steve Faulkner
Judy, Not sure it changes the bottom line, where some number certain can divide between useful and nonuseful alt
standins
Judy, Geoff and I have found some more examples that I can share, but need a bit of intro
Judy, May be that we need a warning not a conformance error
<Judy> Janina, in particular, may be relevant to add warnings for assistive technologies not to read out anything over
a certain length
Judy, Janina, can you bring this up at CG?
Janina, Yes
update from bug triage team regarding any incoming text-alternative-related bugs?
<JF> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13668
Janina, Maciej interested in this issue when I reported on our TF discussion during the WG telecon last Thursday
Janina, We were uncertain whether this is HTML spec, or CSS spec, etc.
Janina, We set up a subteam to deal with this directly, chaired by John
John, Tab Atkins responded on bug, will have conversation with him after this week when next he's available to discuss
Lynn, Who generates this content?
John, That's the issue. Sometimes UA, sometimes CSS, etc., etc
John, Benjamin Hawkes-lewis suggets generated text is a a11y failure, CSS should not generate
Judy, Judy, How long will this subteam need to come to an opinion?
John, Unsure
Judy, Encouraging John to plan work so that the subteam doesn't become a self-perpetuating long term effort
Janina, Scope may be sufficient to clearly identify the issue. We don't have the "elevator speech" on this yet
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: janina read and respond to josh's table summary comments, and respond to Laura's comments [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2011/09/12-text-minutes.html#action01]
[End of minutes]
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