- From: Silvia Pfeiffer <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com>
- Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 13:33:20 +1000
- To: Sean Hayes <Sean.Hayes@microsoft.com>
- Cc: "HTML Accessibility Task Force (public-html-a11y@w3.org)" <public-html-a11y@w3.org>
Ha, that's funny: have we been using the wrong term all the time? In out requirements it's called "clear audio" (and that's also what we have requested in the bug, see http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12544 ). In these documents it's called "clean audio". I think we will need to change our documents/request for @kind label... I've now (using the proper name) also found this document: http://www.etsi.org/deliver/etsi_ts/101100_101199/101154/01.09.01_60/ts_101154v010901p.pdf which is "Digital Video Broadcasting (DVB); Specification for the use of Video and Audio Coding in Broadcasting Applications based on the MPEG-2 Transport Stream" . Annex E talks about Clean Audio as a supplementary audio service in the form of receiver-mixed data. This is in contrast to broadcast-mixed delivery, which would be as a separate alternative audio stream, which DVB does not support. So, it seems that while we are asking for a @kind="clean audio" label on audio tracks that are delivered separately to the main audio track and provide a better understandable audio mix, this isn't actually what DVB supports (and I assume DVB is the only way in which clean audio is currently realized?). So, the question is: what do we do in HTML5 to support the kind of clean audio tracks that DVB expects. IIUC, the receiver-mixed means of delivery of clean audio (and audio description for that matter) delivers it through multi-channel audio but within the main audio track. This means, on a 3, 5.1 or more audio channel file, some of these channels are reserved for non-main audio. There is a marker of "visual impaired commentary" for AD and "hearing impaired" for clean audio used on the individual channels that have a separate use. The images shown in the spec show the use of clean audio only in the case of 5.1 channels with the center channel used for clean audio, while when using audio description it shows the use of 3 channels: left, right, and a mono audio description.The user has the possibility to separately increase the volume of the audio description and of the clean audio. If such a file with multiple audio channels was to be used in a HTML5 page, we wouldn't get the same level of control that DVB has defined, because there is no control that allows to change the volume mix of multi-channel audio. It is important to understand that there is a difference between multi-channel audio and multi-track audio: multi-channel audio is encoded within one audio track just by interleaving the channels within that track. In HTML5 we don't have a means to change the volume of the individual channels, but only to change the volume of a track. Cheers, Silvia. On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 7:59 PM, Sean Hayes <Sean.Hayes@microsoft.com> wrote: > Here is a summary of the European digital television definition for clean > audio [adapted from a forthcoming edition of TS 101 154 from the DVB]. The > system relies on client side mixing, under control of the programme-maker. > > > > Clean Audio refers to audio providing improved intelligibility. It is > targeted for viewers with hearing impairments, but can as well serve as > improvement for listening in noisy environments.… an important requirement > is to adjust, on a passage by passage basis, the relative level of programme > sound in the mix which the secondary audio user hears. The programme maker > is best able to determine the level under controlled conditions when > authoring the secondary audio information to modulate the level of programme > sound in the secondary audio capable receiver so suitable secondary audio > information is thus transmitted within the secondary audio stream. > > > > Individual secondary audio users will have different aural acuity, and there > are, in practice, differences in audio signal level for different home > receivers. An essential requirement is for the user to be able to adjust the > volume to suit his/her condition. > > > > A descriptor is sent in a service to indicate a clean audio service. The > level by which the main audio service should be attenuated is sent in the > metadata (on a per channel basis). The client should accentuate the levels > of the channel containing the dialogue and attenuate the other channels, > accordingly. The level of the centre channel added should additionally be > under user control to allow individual tailoring of the sound for > audibility. > > > > Background: > http://www.rnid.org.uk/VirtualContent/84923/background_noise_PDF.pdf > > European HD TV requirements: http://tech.ebu.ch/docs/tech/tech3333.pdf [p15]
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