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Re: no-title CP - remarks

From: Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 09:36:20 +0100
Message-ID: <BANLkTinfF=1b=vhum9jChADKOLJSH1=Leg@mail.gmail.com>
To: Judy Brewer <jbrewer@w3.org>, Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net>, "Michael(tm) Smith" <mike@w3.org>, Michael Cooper <cooper@w3.org>
Cc: HTML Accessibility Task Force <public-html-a11y@w3.org>
Hi  All,

1. Leif's proposal does not require a re-opening of the decision since it
does not call for the use of title in the absence of alt to be non
conforming. So I suggest that it is inappropriate to consider it in terms of
re-opening, the changes Leif proposes should first be submitted as last call
2. There has been consistent consensus within the a11y taskforce and prior
in the WAI-CG guidance on alt, that title not be considered conforming when
alt is absent. If the group wishes to reconsider this in light of Leif's
arguments then the move to re-open the decision would be defunct and I would
withdraw my proposal to re-open.

To resolve this I suggest that we poll the group to find out whether Leif's
proposal changes the consensus of the group.


On 11 May 2011 04:09, Leif Halvard Silli

> Leif Halvard Silli, Mon, 9 May 2011 23:41:17 +0200:
> > It seems that Webkit's behaviour covered by what HTML5 says about
> > repairing for lack of @alt:
> >
> > ]] While user agents are encouraged to repair cases of missing alt
> > attributes, authors must not rely on such behavior. [[
> >
> > And I think that you could put it in your change proposal that HTML5
> > says that authors are MUST NOT rely on such repair behaviour.
> I have now put this into my own change proposal:
> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/EnTitle
> Main difference from Steve's prop: a warning instead of an error
> message, a different reading of the (browser) facts and other
> justifications (plural) for revisiting the issue.
> Leif H Silli

with regards

Steve Faulkner
Technical Director - TPG

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