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- Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 13:48:31 +0000
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http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=11239 --- Comment #47 from Rich Schwerdtfeger <schwer@us.ibm.com> 2011-05-10 13:48:22 UTC --- Let me explain. When you removed the point in the process that allowed a ring to be wrong when it was not a descendant of the focused element things broke. Here is why it is broken: <div role="grid" tabindex="0" aria-activedescendant="idz"> ... <div role="row"> ... <span id="idz" role="gridcell"> ... </div> </div> In this scenario the container grid managed the visual point of regard for the descendant gridcell. DOM focus is on the grid and the active descendant is the gridcell. When the id of the activedescendant changes a system focus change is sent to the assistive technology which processes the new active descendant. This is very similar to desktop applications. Now, an author could also implement a roving tabindex on gridcells in which case what you have would mostly work. Now, in general active children (managed children) do not always use system conventions for drawing a focus (Maciej's earlier point) and it would be more intuitive to separate out this function. So, to separate them out we would enter a separate bug against the chairs decision which would remove limit drawFocusRing to only drawing rings on focus elements and create a separate function that is something like drawPointofRegard or drawNonFocusRing that only deals with managed children. I don't want to start separating them out now, by making your change to eliminate the active descendant on drawFocusRing, as it would obfuscate the error in the next paragraph. The other problem we have and which I have asked the chairs to review is the issue with canDrawCustom. If the system does not provide a setting for drawing focus rings in a certain way and the author sets the canCrawCustom flag then drawFocusRing does nothing to allow the author to draw the custom ring. However, doing nothing also means that the magnifier is not notified where the point of regard is and the low vision user will be unable to track their location. Our change proposal required an author to configure the drawing path and the style before drawFocusRing was called. If the system did not have a feature that drew focus rings for the element type in a certain way then the custom ring would be drawn and the magnifier would be notified. If the OS did have a feature that was applied to draw a focus ring a certain way then the user agent would apply that styling instead. Does that help? If we still have a disconnect then sure I would be happy to talk. -- Configure bugmail: http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
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