- From: Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>
- Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 13:38:05 +0000
- To: Anne van Kesteren <annevk@opera.com>
- Cc: Joshue O Connor <joshue.oconnor@cfit.ie>, HTML Accessibility Task Force <public-html-a11y@w3.org>, HTML WG <public-html@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <AANLkTi==4Vz0Fzj8UjCqvwJAxEgYhbJppqkPwUhYTJg9@mail.gmail.com>
Hi Anne, most of the fun parts of canvas are widely implemented and have been for a while, the accessibility bits (focus ring/naviagble dom/ caret (maybe) are not yet, the authoring advice does not take this into account, creating disconnect for authors. regards stevef On 24 January 2011 13:28, Anne van Kesteren <annevk@opera.com> wrote: > On Mon, 24 Jan 2011 14:16:02 +0100, Steve Faulkner < > faulkner.steve@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I think authoring conformance requrements are not served well by the >> living standard model, there is no certainty over the rules that authors >> should follow. >> also including things that are half-baked (hgroup springs to mind) in a >> standard can potentially mislead developers, waste time thier time and >> undermine the concept of web (authoring) standards. >> >> While the commit then review on an unversioned docuemnt may be a useful >> method for the development of new features it does not follow that it is a >> good method for the authoring practices that accompany features. >> While the brower vendors may control what is implemented , they do not and >> should not control the authoring conformance requirements associated with >> imlementations. >> > > How do you tell what is half-baked and what is ready though? <canvas> is > maybe not ready, but people are using it. Should they have waited > five-to-ten years until we figured it out more? What about XMLHttpRequest? > > How do you tell something is ready for authors? Was <style> ready for > authors when HTML4 shipped? Per HTML4 its media="" attribute defaults to > "screen", an ugly bug and never fixed. Is that better than being able to > quickly fix such mistakes? > > Would we have known <hgroup> might not be the best approach if we had not > exposed it to the web? > > > > -- > Anne van Kesteren > http://annevankesteren.nl/ > -- with regards Steve Faulkner Technical Director - TPG www.paciellogroup.com | www.HTML5accessibility.com<http://www.html5accessibility.com/>| www.twitter.com/stevefaulkner HTML5: Techniques for providing useful text alternatives - dev.w3.org/html5/alt-techniques/ Web Accessibility Toolbar - www.paciellogroup.com/resources/wat-ie-about.html
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