- From: Sean Hayes <Sean.Hayes@microsoft.com>
- Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 14:51:31 +0000
- To: John Foliot <jfoliot@stanford.edu>, 'HTML Accessibility Task Force' <public-html-a11y@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <8DEFC0D8B72E054E97DC307774FE4B913305D25A@DB3EX14MBXC313.europe.corp.microsoft.c>
In fulfillment of my action item, attached are the proposed edits I believe are required to make the current HTML5 technology neutral wrt WebSRT. Sean. -----Original Message----- From: public-html-a11y-request@w3.org [mailto:public-html-a11y-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of John Foliot Sent: 28 October 2010 01:00 To: 'HTML Accessibility Task Force' Subject: [minutes] Media sub-team teleconference: Oct. 27, 2010 Please note that the minutes of today's teleconference can also be found at: http://www.w3.org/2010/10/27-html-a11y-minutes.html *************************** HTML-A11Y telecon 27 Oct 2010 See also: IRC log Attendees Present Janina, Sean_Hayes, silvia, Judy, John_Foliot, Frank_Olivier Regrets Chair Janina_Sajka Scribe John, John_Foliot, JF Contents Topics Identify Scribe Actions Review Status Updates & Brief Reports; User Reqs; Spec Text Modifications; Technical Requirements Prioritizations and Dependencies WCAG Mapping Must/Should/May Categorizations Summary of Action Items <janina> agenda: this Identify Scribe <janina> scribe: John <janina> scribe: John_Foliot <JF> scribe: JF <janina> scribe: jf Actions Review seems we have no more open action items effective today although this might be due to problems with the W3C systems systems tech guys have been dealing with larger system wide issues Silvia: this might not be affecting us, thinks we are actually in good shape Status Updates & Brief Reports; User Reqs; Spec Text Modifications; Janina: reminder about W3C fishing attemps of late Judy: have checked the most recent TR draft, and that none of the language we were concerned about is included we will be using bugzilla to get the text cleaned up to remove references to WebSRT from the Editor's Draft Silvia: happy with the framework, but we need to remove references to WebSRT Judy: think it would be good to move quickly to get bugs filed propose language thta would replace existing text with neutral language did we resolve who would be filing actual bugs last week? (seems no) Judy will then seek to have those bugs acted upon quickly Silvia: Eric was going to try and approach hixie about removing the text himself and make it more neutral Not sure if hixie would be open to that Sean: prepared to work on this, but unsure on how to proceed Judy: would be good if we could offer proposed text Silvia: I would go through the draft, find mentions of WebSRT, and see if it can be reformulated/rewritten with more neutral language submit those proposals to the mailing list, and then submit as proposed changes Issue with no existing W3c Editor's Draft Sean: I can work on this perhaps next Monday Judy looking to see if we can access a W3C Editor Draft Janina: agree that we should work this via the list mindful that some will be at TPAC, but likely most will not. Judy: won't be available next week <judy_> (...at least at the regular time) Janina: there might be some 'unconference' meeting @ TPAC ... probably will be able to avail teleconference connectivity watch IRC and lists Thrusday and Friday Silvia: if the times can be posted, we could join in then Janina: so we won't have a call next week, but rather try and work around TPAC scheduling Technical Requirements Prioritizations and Dependencies meanwhile Sean can start on proposed edits and we can discuss via email list Janina: this is kind of a meta-topic WCAG Mapping Janina: have the mappings against WCAG complete? Must/Should/May Categorizations JF - believes both WCAG and UAAG mappings are complete Janina: finished with her pass - essentially comfortable that we have it right JF: did janina make any changes? Janina: silvia made them for Janina Silvia: most of them, but not everything there is a bit of issue on a few points, and we can keep the list fairly dynamic and flexible however generally quite happy with the technical mappings only technologies that have cue format need to be checked when evaluating time-text formats Silvia now considering whether to make a separate document for WebSRT or adding a new column on the existing TTML evaluation page Silvia: if WG decides that this is an "official" W3C requirements what happens to it after that Frank: do we have a plan for prioritization of requirements? Janina: this matrix was supposed to be able to help us get towards this type of clarrity Frank: concerned that some of these things will take a longer time to figure out ... one of MS goals is to allow 3rd parties to extend the browser by installing additions ... would love to see a list of core rquirements Silvia: 2 things that need to be done (for multi-track issue) how do we associate secondary files to the main file's timeline (needs HTML markup) we also need to define a JavaScript API to handle this scenario as well however it should be fairly simple, as it will be based on the existing JS API we have it just needs to define what type of language formats, and how to turn on and off Judy: concerned about assuming that some things can't get into HTML5 this becomes a tricky discussion. Silvia: once multi-track sync is figured out, the next big challenge will likely be navigation by hierarchy suspect that this will take a number of years to achieve Judy: there is a commitment from the W3c to ensure that accessibility is included in the HTML5 and done right Silvia: just want to be realistic that between 0% and 100% there is multiple points Janina: wants to point out that the hierarchical navigation is critical, and will need to be addressed <janina> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2010Oct/0520.html Silvia: would like to see us start engaging on the multi-track piece that she started the discussion on last week. <silvia> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/Media_Sub-Group#Bugs JF to also go through bugzilla and ensure that all bugs are being watch by us that affect us Janina: recap - Sean and Silvia (and perhaps Eric) to file bugs to tweak language in Editors draft <scribe> ACTION: Sean and Silvia (and perhaps Eric) to file bugs to tweak language in Editors draft [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/10/27-html-a11y-minutes.html#action01] <trackbot> Created ACTION-67 - And Silvia (and perhaps Eric) to file bugs to tweak language in Editors draft [on Sean Hayes - due 2010-11-03]. <scribe> ACTION: John to ensure all relevant bugs are added to the wiki [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/10/27-html-a11y-minutes.html#action02] <trackbot> Created ACTION-68 - Ensure all relevant bugs are added to the wiki [on John Foliot - due 2010-11-03]. <scribe> ACTION: Silvia to work up checklist table for WebSRT [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/10/27-html-a11y-minutes.html#action03] <trackbot> Created ACTION-69 - Work up checklist table for WebSRT [on Silvia Pfeiffer - due 2010-11-03]. Janina: thanks everyone. we are making very good progress Summary of Action Items [NEW] ACTION: John to ensure all relevant bugs are added to the wiki [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/10/27-html-a11y-minutes.html#action02] [NEW] ACTION: Sean and Silvia (and perhaps Eric) to file bugs to tweak language in Editors draft [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/10/27-html-a11y-minutes.html#action01] [NEW] ACTION: Silvia to work up checklist table for WebSRT [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/10/27-html-a11y-minutes.html#action03]
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