- From: Silvia Pfeiffer <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com>
- Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 10:18:45 +1100
- To: Sean Hayes <Sean.Hayes@microsoft.com>
- Cc: Laura Carlson <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com>, Eric Carlson <eric.carlson@apple.com>, Geoff Freed <geoff_freed@wgbh.org>, HTML Accessibility Task Force <public-html-a11y@w3.org>, Matt May <mattmay@adobe.com>, Philippe Le Hegaret <plh@w3.org>
On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 7:38 AM, Sean Hayes <Sean.Hayes@microsoft.com> wrote: > I don’t disagree with the need to provide appropriate alternatives to media, but the mechanism of providing a transcript is perhaps not best provided through the mechanism of trapping captions. As you say, captions would in fact probably not be an adequate replacement for the media without the text of description being included at minimum. Thus a transcript is more like the alt text on an image, a different semantic beast than captions, and probably better provided by other means. > > I think there is an important larger issue here. Is the text mechanism intended to provide captions and subtitles; or is the intention, as Silvia's examples would seem to suggest, to use it turn HTML5 into a time based media like SMIL or HTML+TIME. If the latter, and this mechanism is intended to address corporate branding and advertising, then I think we are straying out of the remit of accessibility into something much larger which would need to be taken up in the wider group. The two examples that you are providing are two extremes: captions/subtitles on the one end, and SMIL/HTML+Time on the other. Right now and for the purposes of this group we are focused on captions/subtitles. But already with the features of DFXP there is a possibility to go a step further, without going all the way to the complexity of SMIL/HTML+Time - which, IMO, needs to come in at a different level. What I was describing is simply time-aligned text that is a bit more capable than just being plain text. In particular I am talking about hyperlinks, which are essentially nothing more than styled text, but provide Web functionality - something that should be very important to us in the given context. This has nothing to do with going all the way to SMIL/HTML+Time. It is still no more than captions or subtitles, but with the possibility of linking out at a given time. Think about it: we could have captions that allow us to explain things further - e.g. a movie about a historic event with names of people mentioned and you could click through on the names of the people and find out what they were really like and why they are portrayed as they are in the movie. Directly related "supplementary material" - not banned to another resource as it currently is in DVDs. Actually available at your fingertip when you are interested in it. Or we could have captions of a political discussion with links to explain some background on the speakers. Or we could have captions that would link to a dictionary entry for words that are used very infrequently in a language. Or, of course, we could have links in ads to the eCommerce site of the current ad, so we can directly go and purchase the product. This is not difficult to do on top of what we have right now, but requires the ability to at least interact with links inside timed text. Note that I am not even sure if current DFXP/TTML supports hyperlinks, but if it doesn't I would be very keen on introducing them because they are extremely useful. Since DFXP/TTML is declared as being easily extensible, that should not be so hard to do. Regards, Silvia.
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