- From: Gregory J. Rosmaita <oedipus@hicom.net>
- Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 18:27:11 +0000
- To: gez.lemon@gmail.com
- Cc: public-html-a11y@w3.org, public-html@w3.org
one more consideration -- i don't consider the bug report
requiring use of @label to be an-a11y specific bug, but a
general bug, as it pertains not only to a11y, but i18n and
general usability -- an icon has no inherent meaning, and
thus MUST ALWAYS be described by @label and explained
through @title
gregory.
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---------- Original Message -----------
From: "Gregory J. Rosmaita" <oedipus@hicom.net>
To: public-html-a11y@w3.org, gez.lemon@gmail.com
Sent: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 17:38:18 +0000
Subject: Re: [Bug 8671] Requiring the label attribute
> aloha!
>
> does bug 8671 cover the not-yet-submitted bug report contained at:
>
> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/Bugs/a11y/command_element/icon
>
> and reproduced in full following my signature...
>
> should the info on that wiki page be ported to bug 8671 or should
> a new bug be opened, as the thrust of my bug report is that
> @label MUST be used when @icon is used, not just for
> accessibility purposes, but general usability and
> internationalization, as an icon only has meaning through use
> and custom, and not everyone who perceives the icon will know
> what it is intended to represent...
>
> Bugs/a11y/command element/icon
>
> Bug Details:
> * Section: 4.11.2 The command element
> * Revision version of draft reviewed: 1.3518
>
> <q
> cite="http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/interactive-
> elements.html#attr-comm and-label">The label attribute gives
> the name of the command, as shown to the user.</q>
>
> <q
> cite="http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/interactive-
> elements.html#command-f acet-accesskey">The title attribute
> gives a hint describing the command, which might be shown to
> the user to help him.</q>
>
> Comments: This differentiation between label and title is a familiar
> one: the label is a noun, which describes the labeled item, while
> title serves as a "verb", by providing assistance or
> instructions to the user on demand.
>
> <q
> cite="http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/interactive-
> elements.html#command-f acet-accesskey">The icon attribute
> gives a picture that represents the command. If the attribute
> is specified, the attribute's value must contain a valid URL.
> To obtain the absolute URL of the icon, the attribute's value
> must be resolved relative to the element.</q>
>
> Comments: There is currently no stipulation that use of an
> icon necessitates valid label and title values, so as to
> provide for an alternative to the rendering of the graphic.
> Since the icon attribute is explicitly <q
> cite="http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/interactive-
> elements.html#command-f acet-accesskey">a picture that
> represents the command</q>, use of icon must be valid only
> when label and title are also present.
>
> Synopsis: Use of icon requires valid label (and title, or is
> that an best practice for authors - sometimes, the label does
> "say it all"). There are NO circumstances where the icon
> attribute can be used without an accompanying label. Note that
> the presence of a label helps users who can perceive the icon,
> but to whom the imagery does not make sense or is not readily
> apparent to the user; therefore, label becomes an especially
> important means of disambiguating the meaning of the icon.
> _________________________________________________________________
>
> Retrieved from
> "http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/Bugs/a11y/command_element/icon"
>
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> Subject: [Bug 8671] Requiring the label attribute
>
> > http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8671
> >
> > Michael(tm) Smith <mike@w3.org> changed:
> >
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