RE: Preparation of MSE Proposed Recommendation from Jerry Smith (WPT) on 2016-09-30 (public-hme-editors@w3.org from September 2016)

From: Jerry Smith (WPT) <jdsmith@microsoft.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2016 20:23:46 +0000
To: Matt Wolenetz <wolenetz@google.com>
CC: Philippe Le Hégaret <plh@w3.org>, Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>, Mark Watson <watsonm@netflix.com>, "public-hme-editors@w3.org" <public-hme-editors@w3.org>
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The merge function should automatically rebase.  If there are conflicts, I will resolve them.

From: Matt Wolenetz [mailto:wolenetz@google.com]
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2016 1:22 PM
To: Jerry Smith (WPT) <jdsmith@microsoft.com>
Cc: Philippe Le Hégaret <plh@w3.org>; Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>; Mark Watson <watsonm@netflix.com>; public-hme-editors@w3.org
Subject: Re: Preparation of MSE Proposed Recommendation

#164 is merged. Jerry, please rebase your #167 with a regenerated index.html and I'll take a look.

On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 1:20 PM, Matt Wolenetz <wolenetz@google.com<mailto:wolenetz@google.com>> wrote:
OK. I'll merge #164 right now, so we don't confuse our changes to index.html.

On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 1:19 PM, Jerry Smith (WPT) <jdsmith@microsoft.com<mailto:jdsmith@microsoft.com>> wrote:
I believe index.html is stale and just needs to be updated.  I’m working on doing that.

From: Matt Wolenetz [mailto:wolenetz@google.com<mailto:wolenetz@google.com>]
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2016 1:18 PM
To: Philippe Le Hégaret <plh@w3.org<mailto:plh@w3.org>>
Cc: Jerry Smith (WPT) <jdsmith@microsoft.com<mailto:jdsmith@microsoft.com>>; Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com<mailto:Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>>; Mark Watson <watsonm@netflix.com<mailto:watsonm@netflix.com>>; public-hme-editors@w3.org<mailto:public-hme-editors@w3.org>
Subject: Re: Preparation of MSE Proposed Recommendation

That's excellent news, Philippe!

#167 : I have one comment on it that I'm looking into today. Please hold off on merging it at the moment.
#164 : This is ready for merge ASAP.  Philippe, would you like for me to do it (or did you need to do some extra steps around PR publication for any merges right now?)

Outside of #74, these are the only outstanding non-substantive items needing merger before PR publication. For #74, what's the plan, Philippe?

Thanks,
Matt


On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 1:01 PM, Philippe Le Hégaret <plh@w3.org<mailto:plh@w3.org>> wrote:


On 9/30/2016 3:58 PM, Jerry Smith (WPT) wrote:
Relative to this, should PF #167 be merged in this publication?



https://github.com/w3c/media-source/pull/167


Will do. Thanks for the reminder.

Philippe


Jerry



*From:*Paul Cotton
*Sent:* Thursday, September 29, 2016 5:37 AM
*To:* Jerry Smith (WPT) <jdsmith@microsoft.com<mailto:jdsmith@microsoft.com>>; Matt Wolenetz
<wolenetz@google.com<mailto:wolenetz@google.com>>
*Cc:* Mark Watson <watsonm@netflix.com<mailto:watsonm@netflix.com>>; public-hme-editors@w3.org<mailto:public-hme-editors@w3.org>;
Philippe Le Hegaret (plh@w3.org<mailto:plh@w3.org>) <plh@w3.org<mailto:plh@w3.org>>
*Subject:* RE: Preparation of MSE Proposed Recommendation



Does Philippe have the final MSE PR he needs for the Proposed
Recommendation publication?



*From:*Jerry Smith (WPT)
*Sent:* Wednesday, September 21, 2016 7:02 PM
*To:* Matt Wolenetz <wolenetz@google.com<mailto:wolenetz@google.com> <mailto:wolenetz@google.com<mailto:wolenetz@google.com>>>;
Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com<mailto:Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com> <mailto:Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com<mailto:Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>>>
*Cc:* Mark Watson <watsonm@netflix.com<mailto:watsonm@netflix.com> <mailto:watsonm@netflix.com<mailto:watsonm@netflix.com>>>;
public-hme-editors@w3.org<mailto:public-hme-editors@w3.org> <mailto:public-hme-editors@w3.org<mailto:public-hme-editors@w3.org>>; Philippe
Le Hegaret (plh@w3.org<mailto:plh@w3.org> <mailto:plh@w3.org<mailto:plh@w3.org>>) <plh@w3.org<mailto:plh@w3.org> <mailto:plh@w3.org<mailto:plh@w3.org>>>
*Subject:* RE: Preparation of MSE Proposed Recommendation



Edge supports ID3 Metadata Tags inband for Media Elements and MSE, and
608/708 inband for Media Elements (but not MSE).



Jerry



*From:*Matt Wolenetz [mailto:wolenetz@google.com<mailto:wolenetz@google.com>]
*Sent:* Wednesday, September 21, 2016 12:04 PM
*To:* Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com<mailto:Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>
<mailto:Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com<mailto:Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>>>
*Cc:* Jerry Smith (WPT) <jdsmith@microsoft.com<mailto:jdsmith@microsoft.com>
<mailto:jdsmith@microsoft.com<mailto:jdsmith@microsoft.com>>>; Mark Watson <watsonm@netflix.com<mailto:watsonm@netflix.com>
<mailto:watsonm@netflix.com<mailto:watsonm@netflix.com>>>; public-hme-editors@w3.org<mailto:public-hme-editors@w3.org>
<mailto:public-hme-editors@w3.org<mailto:public-hme-editors@w3.org>>; Philippe Le Hegaret (plh@w3.org<mailto:plh@w3.org>
<mailto:plh@w3.org<mailto:plh@w3.org>>) <plh@w3.org<mailto:plh@w3.org> <mailto:plh@w3.org<mailto:plh@w3.org>>>
*Subject:* Re: Preparation of MSE Proposed Recommendation



I'm back in the office today. I'll:

1. merge https://github.com/w3c/media-source/pull/164 shortly

2. prepare a PR to fix https://github.com/w3c/media-source/issues/159

shortly



Regarding text tracks AI from last sync, I note that we have little test
suite coverage of that spec area: just IDL-related tests, tracked
by https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/issues/3673




Jerry: How is Edge's support for in-band text track parsing? Is there
support (or committed-to-implementing support) for it (and if for a
particular subset of bytestreams, which ones)?



Thanks,

Matt



On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 6:34 AM, Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com<mailto:Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>
<mailto:Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com<mailto:Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>>> wrote:

    The only response to this request I have seen is Jerry’s
    confirmation that he is okay with the PR for ISSUE-164.

    https://github.com/w3c/media-source/pull/164#issuecomment-248161775




    I have submitted the MSE PR Transition Request and the review with
    the Director will be on Monday.  We need the draft Proposed
    Recommendation updated BEFORE that review.



    > Please respond to let me know who is going to apply these changes.



    RSVP.



    /paulc



    *From:* Paul Cotton [mailto:Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com<mailto:Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>
    <mailto:Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com<mailto:Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>>]
    *Sent:* Monday, September 19, 2016 9:03 AM
    *To:* Matthew Wolenetz <wolenetz@google.com<mailto:wolenetz@google.com>
    <mailto:wolenetz@google.com<mailto:wolenetz@google.com>>> (wolenetz@google.com<mailto:wolenetz@google.com>
    <mailto:wolenetz@google.com<mailto:wolenetz@google.com>>) <wolenetz@google.com<mailto:wolenetz@google.com>
    <mailto:wolenetz@google.com<mailto:wolenetz@google.com>>>; Jerry Smith (WPT)
    <jdsmith@microsoft.com<mailto:jdsmith@microsoft.com> <mailto:jdsmith@microsoft.com<mailto:jdsmith@microsoft.com>>>; Mark Watson
    <watsonm@netflix.com<mailto:watsonm@netflix.com> <mailto:watsonm@netflix.com<mailto:watsonm@netflix.com>>>
    *Cc:* public-hme-editors@w3.org<mailto:public-hme-editors@w3.org> <mailto:public-hme-editors@w3.org<mailto:public-hme-editors@w3.org>>;
    Philippe Le Hegaret (plh@w3.org<mailto:plh@w3.org> <mailto:plh@w3.org<mailto:plh@w3.org>>) <plh@w3.org<mailto:plh@w3.org>
    <mailto:plh@w3.org<mailto:plh@w3.org>>>
    *Subject:* Preparation of MSE Proposed Recommendation



    See the HME WG Decision below.



    > The MSE Editors should update the MSE specification with the
    editorial changes that were found during the CfC and inform the WG
    when the completed document is ready.



    Philippe and I need the changes for the following issues made ASAP:



    a)      ISSUE-159: Unecessary argument provided to Append Error
    Algorithm
    https://github.com/w3c/media-source/issues/159


    b)     ISSUE-163: Incorrect reference to "highest end time" in a
    non-normative note
    https://github.com/w3c/media-source/issues/163




    Matt sent me a note on Sunday that he was sick and might be off work
    Monday PDT.  Could Jerry or Mark merge in the changes required for
    these two issues?



    Please respond to let me know who is going to apply these changes.



    /paulc



    *From:* Paul Cotton [mailto:Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com<mailto:Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>]
    *Sent:* Saturday, September 17, 2016 7:35 AM
    *To:* 'public-html-media@w3.org<mailto:public-html-media@w3.org> <mailto:public-html-media@w3.org<mailto:public-html-media@w3.org>>'
    <public-html-media@w3.org<mailto:public-html-media@w3.org> <mailto:public-html-media@w3.org<mailto:public-html-media@w3.org>>>
    *Cc:* Philippe Le Hegaret (plh@w3.org<mailto:plh@w3.org> <mailto:plh@w3.org<mailto:plh@w3.org>>)
    <plh@w3.org<mailto:plh@w3.org> <mailto:plh@w3.org<mailto:plh@w3.org>>>; Matthew Wolenetz
    <wolenetz@google.com<mailto:wolenetz@google.com> <mailto:wolenetz@google.com<mailto:wolenetz@google.com>>>
    (wolenetz@google.com<mailto:wolenetz@google.com> <mailto:wolenetz@google.com<mailto:wolenetz@google.com>>)
    <wolenetz@google.com<mailto:wolenetz@google.com> <mailto:wolenetz@google.com<mailto:wolenetz@google.com>>>; Mark Watson
    <watsonm@netflix.com<mailto:watsonm@netflix.com> <mailto:watsonm@netflix.com<mailto:watsonm@netflix.com>>>; Jerry Smith
    (WPT) <jdsmith@microsoft.com<mailto:jdsmith@microsoft.com> <mailto:jdsmith@microsoft.com<mailto:jdsmith@microsoft.com>>>
    *Subject:* WG Decision: Request transition of Media Source
    Extensions (MSE) to Proposed Recommendation



    > Silence will be taken to mean there is no objection, but positive
    responses are encouraged. If there are no objections by Friday 16
    September, this resolution will carry.



    Since there were no objections to this CfC and several indications
    of support, the resolution passes and we will request the Director
    to approve transition of Media Source Extensions (MSE) to Proposed
    Recommendation.



    The MSE Editors should update the MSE specification with the
    editorial changes that were found during the CfC and inform the WG
    when the completed document is ready.



    /paulc

    HME WG Chair



    *From:* Paul Cotton [mailto:Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com<mailto:Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>]
    *Sent:* Friday, September 9, 2016 9:25 AM
    *To:* 'public-html-media@w3.org<mailto:public-html-media@w3.org> <mailto:public-html-media@w3.org<mailto:public-html-media@w3.org>>'
    <public-html-media@w3.org<mailto:public-html-media@w3.org> <mailto:public-html-media@w3.org<mailto:public-html-media@w3.org>>>
    *Subject:* CfC: Request transition of Media Source Extensions (MSE)

    to Proposed Recommendation



    In accordance with the W3C process's requirement to record the
    group's decision to request advancement [1], this is a Call for
    Consensus (CfC) to request transition to Proposed Recommendation for
    the following Media Source Extensions (MSE) document:



    https://w3c.github.io/media-source/media-source-pr.html




    For your reference there is list of recent commits to the MSE
    specification:

    https://github.com/w3c/media-source/commits/gh-pages/media-source-respec.html




    There were 60 V1, V1Editorial and V1NonBlocking issues processed
    since the MSE issues were triaged in March 2016 [2] for the
    Candidate Recommendation specifications [3-5]:

    34 V1 issues: https://github.com/w3c/media-source/milestone/2?closed=1


    25 V1Editorial issues:
    https://github.com/w3c/media-source/milestone/5?closed=1


    1 V1NonBlocking issues:
    https://github.com/w3c/media-source/milestone/4?closed=1




    A list of all issues against MSE is available at:

    https://github.com/w3c/media-source/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=is%3Aissue


    and a list of issues NOT dealt with in this cycle and assigned to
    the VNext milestone is available at:

    https://github.com/w3c/media-source/milestone/1



    ISSUE-74 which is tagged as V1Editorial is still outstanding and the
    MSE Registry will be published as a WG Note before we present the
    Proposed Recommendation to the W3C Director.

    https://github.com/w3c/media-source/issues/74




    Test results for this specification can be found at [6-8].  An
    updated analysis of the test results is available at [9].  Note that
    we plan to continue updating the MSE test results until we present
    the draft Proposed Recommendation to the W3C Director.



    Silence will be taken to mean there is no objection, but positive
    responses are encouraged. If there are no objections by Friday 16
    September, this resolution will carry.



    Considerations to note:



    - A request to advance indicates that the Working Group believes the
    specification is stable and appropriate for advancement to
    Recommendation status.



    /paulc

    HME WG Chair



    [1] http://www.w3.org/2005/10/Process-20051014/tr.html#transition-reqs


    [2]
    https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-media/2016Mar/0003.html



    [3] http://www.w3.org/TR/2015/CR-media-source-20151112/


    [4] http://www.w3.org/TR/2016/CR-media-source-20160503/


    [5] http://www.w3.org/TR/2016/CR-media-source-20160705/


    [6] https://w3c.github.io/test-results/media-source/all.html


    [7] https://w3c.github.io/test-results/media-source/less-than-2.html


    [8] https://w3c.github.io/test-results/media-source/complete-fails.html


    [9] http://tidoust.github.io/media-source-testcoverage/




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