- From: Mark Watson <watsonm@netflix.com>
- Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2016 12:13:31 -0700
- To: David Dorwin <ddorwin@google.com>
- Cc: Greg Rutz <G.Rutz@cablelabs.com>, "Jerry Smith (WPT)" <jdsmith@microsoft.com>, "Matthew Wolenetz <wolenetz@google.com> (wolenetz@google.com)" <wolenetz@google.com>, "Philippe Le Hegaret (plh@w3.org)" <plh@w3.org>, Francois Daoust <fd@w3.org>, "public-hme-editors@w3.org" <public-hme-editors@w3.org>, Iraj Sodagar <irajs@microsoft.com>, John Simmons <johnsim@microsoft.com>, Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>, Sukhmal Kommidi <skommidi@netflix.com>
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On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 11:49 AM, David Dorwin <ddorwin@google.com> wrote: > I assumed the mp4 and webm directories were just the content, which is > currently the case. Other than some targeted tests, such as testing > specific initDataTypes, "encrypted" event generation for various formats, > or testing playback of specific types, most tests should be > media-independent. See how > https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/3317 finds any supported > type and uses it. (The tests that use media files need some additional > work.) > > Thus, I think (drm|clearkey)-xxxx.html should be sufficient. It would be > nice if we didn't need to maintain wrappers, but this will work for now. > Writing the tests in .js files also makes it easier to add more tests later > if we or implementers wish. We should design the JS files with such > extensibility in mind. For example: > > function runTest(keySystem = null, mediaType/Config = null) { > > if (!keySystem) selectSupportedNonClearKeyKeySystem(); > > if (!mediaType) getSupportedConfigAndMediaFiles(); > > // Do test. > > } > > > While not required now, it would be nice if we could automatically > generate the .html files with a script. For example, for each file in the > test-scripts/ directory, generate an HTML file that calls it for each of > "drm" and "clearkey. Again, implementers and others could update this > script to test multiple commercial DRM systems and/or types (or even modify > it to run the tests in their own infrastructure without necessarily > generating the HTML files.) > > Please review and merge the PR above before migrating the existing tests. > Ok, done. Sukhmal is working on a configurable test. Likely it will accept a "config" object and then it would indeed be a good idea for it to fill in any missing fields with default values. The configurable things to begin with will be the DRM type and the media files / types. It should then be possible to auto-generate the HTML files, but perhaps we'll create a few by hand to begin with and see how we go. ...Mark > > On Thursday, July 21, 2016, Greg Rutz <G.Rutz@cablelabs.com> wrote: > >> OK — Given the limitations of the test framework, Mark’s approach seems >> acceptable to me. >> >> On 7/21/16, 8:08 AM, "Mark Watson" <watsonm@netflix.com> wrote: >> >> Hi Greg, >> >> You cannot pass arguments to the tests, or configure the test runner to >> run multiple times with different arguments. >> >> You can run multiple tests from one HTML file (WebCrypto has files with >> tens of thousands of tests), which is what I originally proposed on June >> 21st. But there were comments saying we should have one test per HTML file. >> Additionally, they tend to time out, so for our tests involving playback >> you cannot do too many. At this point we should pick an approach. We only >> have a week left. >> >> I was not proposing duplicating all the test code in every HTML file. I >> was proposing a JS file which could run any of four versions of the test >> (drm|clearkey)x(webm|mp4) and then four HTML files which each basically set >> the configuration and call the JS. So, the actual test code would be common >> between DRM and ClearKey as you suggest. >> >> What is missing in my proposal is the possibility to test multiple DRMs >> on one browser. But we have no browsers that support multiple DRMs, so I >> suggest we leave that for another day. >> >> Could I get comments on the Pull Request asap, please. I'd like to devote >> some time today to creating more tests following that pattern. >> >> ...Mark >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 4:00 AM, Greg Rutz <G.Rutz@cablelabs.com> wrote: >> >>> (apologies for my late response — I’m in Europe this week) >>> >>> I am unfortunately not familiar with the W3C test harness. Is it at all >>> possible to pass “arguments” when you select a test to run? It seems that >>> by extending the JSON configuration that is currently used for the >>> multi-DRM (drmconfig.json), you could also pass the media mime types for >>> particular test configuration. So, instead of having separate HTML test >>> files for each media type, it could simply be passed in as part of the test >>> configuration. >>> >>> Also, do we really need separate files for ClearKey? I understand that >>> not all tests would be valid for a ClearKey configuration, but isn’t >>> ClearKey just another key system in the eyes of the EME spec? Sure, the >>> specs provides some normative language to describe what key messages look >>> like, but other than that, you still create key sessions, retrieve a >>> license (in some fashion), and pass that license to update(). >>> >>> I know we are trying to get this done soon and this might be proposing >>> too much of a complex architecture into the tests, but EME seems like a >>> pretty new paradigm within the W3C that has so many optional features that >>> it would make sense to minimize the amount of “cut-and-paste” test code >>> just to support additional key systems and media types. >>> >>> G >>> >>> On 7/20/16, 7:06 PM, "Mark Watson" <watsonm@netflix.com> wrote: >>> >>> All, >>> >>> I have some time tomorrow to work on this and would like us to start >>> making progress on the drm tests, so that we can have a substantial number >>> ready this week. Our deadline is, after all, basically the end of next week. >>> >>> Has anyone had a chance to review the Pull Request I sent this-morning ? >>> Is that a good template ? I would prefer not to invest time migrating lots >>> of tests to that pattern only to have people ask for significant changes to >>> be applied to many files. >>> >>> Can we agree to the model of four HTML files for each test >>> (clearkey-mp4, clearkey-webm, drm-mp4, drm-webm) calling a common JS test >>> file ? >>> >>> Finally, one possibility for also getting results for tests using >>> polyfills would be to create a script which can take all the tests and add >>> polyfill <script> elements to create new scripts in a subdirectory. You >>> would then have a complete copy of all tests, with an easy way to >>> regenerate (the polyfilled versions may or may not be checked in). >>> >>> ...Mark >>> >>> On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 4:58 PM, Mark Watson <watsonm@netflix.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 4:42 PM, Jerry Smith (WPT) < >>>> jdsmith@microsoft.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Would these actually be specific DRMs? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> drm-mp4-temporary-cenc.html >>>>> >>>>> drm-webm-temporary-cenc.html >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> i.e., separate files for each drm supported in test. That would group >>>>> Widevine and PlayReady files together, so they would likely execute as in >>>>> sequence (and as a group). >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Or does “drm” stand for “multi-drm”? >>>>> >>>> >>>> It just means using a DRM rather than using ClearKey. Which DRM to use >>>> would depend on the browser (I'm assuming each browser only supports one >>>> and the test auto-detects which one to use). >>>> >>>> ...Mark >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *From:* Mark Watson [mailto:watsonm@netflix.com] >>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 20, 2016 4:18 PM >>>>> *To:* Jerry Smith (WPT) <jdsmith@microsoft.com> >>>>> *Cc:* David Dorwin <ddorwin@google.com>; Greg Rutz < >>>>> G.Rutz@cablelabs.com>; Matthew Wolenetz <wolenetz@google.com> ( >>>>> wolenetz@google.com) <wolenetz@google.com>; Philippe Le Hegaret ( >>>>> plh@w3.org) <plh@w3.org>; Francois Daoust <fd@w3.org>; >>>>> public-hme-editors@w3.org; Iraj Sodagar <irajs@microsoft.com>; John >>>>> Simmons <johnsim@microsoft.com>; Paul Cotton < >>>>> Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>; Sukhmal Kommidi <skommidi@netflix.com> >>>>> >>>>> *Subject:* Re: DRM Today-based test case for EME >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 3:37 PM, Jerry Smith (WPT) < >>>>> jdsmith@microsoft.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> A RegExpr can tell the runner to repeat each found test (under some >>>>> path) to re-run for a list of keySystems? That sounds pretty good. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> No, it can just select a subset of the html files to run. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Does this work better if scripts are in a sub-folder? If so, then >>>>> maybe these folders under encrypted-media make sense: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> - clearkey >>>>> >>>>> - multidrm >>>>> >>>>> - mp4 >>>>> >>>>> - webm >>>>> >>>>> - util >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Well, there are permutations and combinations: >>>>> >>>>> - any clearkey test that involves media could be run with either mp4 >>>>> or webm, but it is not clear that it is necessary to do so. >>>>> >>>>> - the drm tests on some browsers will only work with mp4/cenc >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Here's a suggestion for a naming convention: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> (drm|clearkey)-(mp4|webm)-xxxx.html >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> We could then have a file, generic-xxxx.js, which could contain most >>>>> of the test code which could be called from the (at most) 4 html files >>>>> names as above. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> We could convert the proposed drmtoday-temporary-cenc.html into >>>>> generic-temporary-cenc.js and >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> drm-mp4-temporary-cenc.html >>>>> >>>>> drm-webm-temporary-cenc.html >>>>> >>>>> clearkey-mp4-temporary-cenc.html >>>>> >>>>> clearkey-webm-temporary-cenc.html >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> WDYAT ? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ...Mark >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Jerry >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *From:* Mark Watson [mailto:watsonm@netflix.com] >>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 20, 2016 3:29 PM >>>>> *To:* David Dorwin <ddorwin@google.com> >>>>> *Cc:* Greg Rutz <G.Rutz@cablelabs.com>; Matthew Wolenetz < >>>>> wolenetz@google.com> (wolenetz@google.com) <wolenetz@google.com>; >>>>> Jerry Smith (WPT) <jdsmith@microsoft.com>; Philippe Le Hegaret ( >>>>> plh@w3.org) <plh@w3.org>; Francois Daoust <fd@w3.org>; >>>>> public-hme-editors@w3.org; Iraj Sodagar <irajs@microsoft.com>; John >>>>> Simmons <johnsim@microsoft.com>; Paul Cotton < >>>>> Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>; Sukhmal Kommidi <skommidi@netflix.com> >>>>> *Subject:* Re: DRM Today-based test case for EME >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 3:11 PM, David Dorwin <ddorwin@google.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> The abstraction Greg describes makes sense, at least to my rough >>>>> understanding. Greg, would we vary the test configurations or are all >>>>> configurations always present and just a way of isolating the logic for >>>>> each key system? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> In case there is any uncertainty, I want to emphasize that most of the >>>>> "Google clearkey tests" are really just EME API tests that happen to use >>>>> Clear Key. (The reason they use Clear Key (and WebM) has is related to the >>>>> fact that they are Blink layout tests that run inside a subset of the code, >>>>> pass in Chromium, and not depend on external servers.) Most interact with >>>>> at least a portion of the Clear Key CDM implementation, meaning the >>>>> behavior and results depend in part on the Clear Key implementation. This >>>>> is similar to how most media tests are also testing a specific >>>>> pipeline/decoder. There are some tests that explicitly test Clear Key >>>>> behavior defined in https://w3c.github.io/encrypted-media/#clear-key, >>>>> and we should ensure these are labeled "clearkey" in the path. Everything >>>>> else should probably be converted to general tests. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Ok, so IIUC, the process we should follow for each test currently in >>>>> the Google directory (and any others we want to add) is: >>>>> >>>>> (i) migrate this test to the framework / utilities we have just >>>>> proposed, including the drmtoday infractructure, to create a test using a >>>>> real DRM >>>>> >>>>> (ii) make a copy of that test that just uses the Clear Key options in >>>>> that same framework / utilities >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> (It may not make sense to do both for every test) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> After we have migrated all the tests, we can remove the Google >>>>> directory. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> We would then have mp4 versions of all the tests and we may want to >>>>> (re)create some WebM ones. I don't expect we need to do every test with >>>>> both WebM and mp4. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The only way I can see to selectively run tests is to specify a path >>>>> or RegExp in the test runner, so we should agree on a naming convention >>>>> and/or folder heirarchy to organize the tests. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Mark, my concern is that using Clear Key, which is almost certainly >>>>> simpler than any other system, could paper over API design, etc. issues for >>>>> other systems. In practice, I don't think this should be an issue since >>>>> Edge doesn't implement Clear Key. (Thus, I also think we should err on the >>>>> side of excluding Clear Key for now.) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> It's a valid concern, but so is the problem that we have a hard >>>>> deadline, so I think we should err on the side of gathering as much >>>>> evidence as we can and providing it with appropriate caveats. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ...Mark >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> For full coverage, all supported combinations would be executed >>>>> (something I discussed >>>>> <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-hme-editors/2016Jun/0100.html> >>>>> earlier >>>>> <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-hme-editors/2016Jun/0104.html>). It >>>>> would be nice if we could get results for the general tests run on each key >>>>> system (and type), but we'd need to create some infrastructure. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> David >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 1:17 PM, Mark Watson <watsonm@netflix.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Greg - this makes sense and it would be easy to take the drmtoday test >>>>> we have written and make a new clearkey version of that by enhancing the >>>>> utils and the config as you describe. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> However, we already have a clearkey version of that test in the Google >>>>> directory (which uses its own utils). So, doing what you say would increase >>>>> the commonality / consistency between the tests, but it wouldn't get us >>>>> more tests. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> David - the clearkey results are useful information for the >>>>> implementation report. Again, as with tests based on polyfills, they >>>>> validate the API design, implementability and specification. These are >>>>> factors in the decision as well as the current state of commercially useful >>>>> features in commercial browsers. We are in the unusual situation of not >>>>> being able to just wait until implementations have matured, so this is >>>>> going to be an unusual decision. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ...Mark >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 1:05 PM, Greg Rutz <G.Rutz@cablelabs.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> For (B), I wasn’t suggesting that there be two different tests in one >>>>> file, I was suggesting that we put operations like license requests into >>>>> utils files that would perform either DRMToday or ClearKey license >>>>> requests. For DRMToday, the implementation in these utils files would make >>>>> the request to the actual DRMToday license server. For ClearKey, the >>>>> implementation would likely return a response message that is placed into >>>>> the test configuration JSON (drmconfig.json in the example test created by >>>>> Sukhmal). The JSON config file can help configure both the key system and >>>>> the desired license response message that we need in order to properly >>>>> execute the test. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> G >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 7/20/16, 1:30 PM, "Mark Watson" <watsonm@netflix.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> So, what we have right now is: >>>>> >>>>> (1) A large number of ClearKey-only tests in a "Google" folder, and >>>>> >>>>> (2) One of those tests (basic playback) migrated to DRM Today, in the >>>>> root folder >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> There are two approaches: >>>>> >>>>> (A) Keep ClearKey and DRM tests separate: move the "Google" tests into >>>>> the root or a "clearkey" folder, continue making new DRMToday versions of >>>>> each of those ClearKey tests >>>>> >>>>> (B) Make the DRMToday test also support ClearKey, continue making new >>>>> ClearKey+DRMToday versions of each of the Google tests and, eventually, >>>>> drop the Google folder >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> For (B), we need to run two tests in one file, which requires some >>>>> care with async tests and there's been comments that we should not have >>>>> multiple tests in one file. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Opinions ? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ...Mark >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 11:27 AM, Greg Rutz <G.Rutz@cablelabs.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I think the test utilities should be designed to be as DRM-independent >>>>> as possible. This would allow us to run any of the test cases that apply >>>>> to ClearKey simply by providing a DRMConfig and test content that indicates >>>>> use of ClearKey. I apologize that I have not been following the EME spec >>>>> progression that much over the last 12-18 months, but I recall there not >>>>> being a ton of differences between ClearKey support and other DRMs as I >>>>> implemented it in dash.js. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> For test cases that are valid for ClearKey, the test case would simply >>>>> execute multiple times on the UA under test — once with ClearKey content >>>>> and one or more additional times for the “real” DRMs that are to be tested >>>>> on that UA. No sense in maintaining separate test code if we don’t have to. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> G >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 7/20/16, 10:34 AM, "Mark Watson" <watsonm@netflix.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Question: should we expand this test case to cover ClearKey ? Or will >>>>> we rely on the tests in the Google folder for ClearKey ? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> If the latter, should we move those tests into the main directory (I >>>>> see they are now working) ? Or, if others would like to add ClearKey tests, >>>>> should they add them to the Google folder ? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ...Mark >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 7:18 PM, Mark Watson <watsonm@netflix.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> All, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sukhmal has created a Pull Request for a temporary session test case >>>>> using DRM Today. We have tested this on Chrome with Widevine and it should >>>>> work on Edge with PlayReady as well: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/3313 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Please review this and comment on whether it is a good template / >>>>> model for us to work from. We can quickly migrate more of the Google >>>>> clearkey tests to drmtoday as well as implementing tests for other session >>>>> types based on this model. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ...Mark >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>
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