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APPROVED: DanC to revise "transformation" rule to be clear about spaces, multiple values [DONE] in v1.252
APPROVED: GRDDL WG-- 18 Apr 2007 as a true record
APPROVED: to meet again Wed, 2 May 11:00-0500. RReck will scribe
ACTION: DanC to revise "transformation" rule to be clear about spaces, multiple values [DONE] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/25-grddl-wg-minutes.html#action01]
see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-grddl-wg/2007Apr/0129.html and http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/grddl-wg/td/html-and-grddl-xform-attr
Chime: I can suggest text.
jjc: I suggested text but not for the green boxes
DanC: anything about media-types ?
Chime: no.
DanC: test case for plain text document don't have GRDDL result ?
PROPOSED: that the premise of the rel="transform" depend only on (a) XML-wf-ness (b) root element name "html", (c) root element namespace http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml
jjc: mime-types ?
DanC: "has an XML representation" which excludes text/plain
RESOLVED: that the premise of the rel="transform" rule depend only on (a) XML-wf-ness (b) root element name "html", (c) root element namespace http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml
Harry: happy with Dan's edit?... yes Everyone seems happy with DanC's edits.
jjc: only informative text to remind the implementors
DanC: the HTML base case was not approved yet
ACTION: DanC to yes, cite htmlbase1 to clarify "base IRI of E" in the case of XHTML [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/25-grddl-wg-minutes.html#action02]
Harry http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/grddl-wg/crrequest.html
Harry http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/grddl-wg/lc-spec
Harry Harry: Samsung leaved the working group
jjc http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-grddl-wg/2007Apr/0119 has suggested text on html base
DanC: remove the pointer to the comment archive and use the table provided by jjc
jjc: current text has a normative dependency on the test that may prevent us to go to CR
Harry: there is the article from IBM site about GRDDL as an evidence http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/web/library/wa-hmach1/index.html?ca=drs- A meaningful Web for humans and machines, Part 1: How humans can share the wealth of the Web
DanC: RDFa and GRDDL compatibility is in the critical path.
SWD comments: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-grddl-comments/2007AprJun/0015.html
ACTION: DanC to s/metdata/metadata/ [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/25-grddl-wg-minutes.html#action03]
ACTION: DanC to cite "XFN" informatively [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/25-grddl-wg-minutes.html#action04]
ACTION: DanC to demote test citation to informative [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/25-grddl-wg-minutes.html#action05]
jjc: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-grddl-comments/2007AprJun/0003 not fully addressed
ACTION: DanC to address editorial comments by Beckett in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-grddl-comments/2007AprJun/0003 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/25-grddl-wg-minutes.html#action06]
jjc: jjc: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-grddl-comments/2007AprJun/0003 S2 is done, other S need editorial changes
jjc http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-grddl-wg/2007Apr/0190
<jjc> addressing dave beckett's comments
DanC: poll "confident done du deligence with comments"
... Unanimous yes with the above comment integrated.
jjc: we have enough tests we need more implementation reports.
ACTION: DanC to add test cases to spec abstract [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/25-grddl-wg-minutes.html#action07]
jjc: should we talk about security or should we leave it out of the critical path?
HarryH Deployed in popular forums
DanC Harry and jjc will be in charge of the CR request from now on.
"@@FILL IN URI OF LATEST GRDDL REVISION" http://www.w3.org/2004/01/rdxh/spec 1.254 + 6 actions above + SOTD + missing "a" + whatever we figure for the STYPI
PROPOSED: that we move GRDDL Specication (2007/04/24 05:22:45 + changes @@FILL above OK'd by JJC) to CR, using CR request text as drafted by HH and edits agreed by JJC
Chime: Chime: I second
RESOLUTION: that we move GRDDL Specication (2007/04/24 05:22:45 + changes @@FILL above OK'd by JJC) to CR, using CR request text as drafted by HH and edits agreed by JJC
no objection, no abstention
ACTION: JJC to see that the CR request gets to The Director, copy chairs, as per http://www.w3.org/2005/08/transition?docstatus=cr-tr [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/25-grddl-wg-minutes.html#action08]
jjc http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/grddl-wg/td/grddl-tests#htmlbase1
... I am trying to show that the correct answer depends on both the base URI and the current URI.
<a rel='transformation' href="whichdir.xsl">
<base href="http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/grddl-wg/td/xhtmlWithBaseElement"/>
see http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/grddl-wg/td/whichdir.xsl and http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/grddl-wg/td/base/xhtmlWithBaseElement
> <rdf:Description rdf:about="">
<rdfs:comment>Transformed by stylesheet from /2001/sw/grddl-wg/td/</rdfs:comment>
</rdf:Description>
rdf:about="" is resolved with the retieval URI
... so the triple is
http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/grddl-wg/td/base/xhtmlWithBaseElement rdfs:comment "Transformed by stylesheet from /2001/sw/grddl-wg/td/"
chimezie I will be abstaining from htmlbase* proposal votes as long as they are approved as informative ; really issue is with an html:base and an xml:base
DanC: DanC: don't want a WG decision if Chime is abstaining.
john-l: Does GRDDL.py pass this particular test?
chimezie: nope
jjc: xinclude has xml:base inside html xml:base inside html
RESOLVED: to approve http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/grddl-wg/td/grddl-tests#htmlbase1
ACTION: Chime to remove http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/grddl-wg/td/grddl-tests#primer-hotel-data and http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/grddl-wg/td/grddl-tests#httpHeaders [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/25-grddl-wg-minutes.html#action09]
chimezie GRDDLpy-earl-2007-04-25.rdf
DanCok, I win, sorta: http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/grddl-wg/td/test_results 1.11
... proposals will please enumerate tests in alphabetical order
APPROVED: to extend the meeting to finish the work on test cases to go to LC.
chimezie With base URI of (http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/grddl-wg/td/grddl-tests):
... batch #1 : #hcard1,#loop,#langconneg1,#langconneg2,#langconneg3,#xhtmlWithGrddlEnabledProfile,#xhtmlWithGrddlEnabledProfileAndADisabledInBodyTransform,#xhtmlWithGrddlEnabledProfileAndInBodyTransform,#xhtmlWithMoreThanOneGrddlTransformation
jjc Chime please run tests in http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/grddl-wg/td/pendinglist
RESOLUTION: to approve all of #hcard1,#loop,#langconneg1,#langconneg2,#langconneg3,#xhtmlWithGrddlEnabledProfile,#xhtmlWithGrddlEnabledProfileAndADisabledInBodyTransform,#xhtmlWithGrddlEnabledProfileAndInBodyTransform,#xhtmlWithMoreThanOneGrddlTransformation
chimezie ... batch #2: #card5n,#card5na,#embedded-rdf1,#embedded-rdf2,#embedded-rdf3,#glean-profile,#grddlonrdf,#hcard,#hcarda,#html-and-transformation-attr,#multipleRepresentations,#multipleRepresentations2,#multipleRepresentations3,#spaces-in-rel
RESOLUTION: to approve #card5n,#card5na,#embedded-rdf1,#embedded-rdf2,#embedded-rdf3,#glean-profile,#grddlonrdf,#hcard,#hcarda,#html-and-transformation-attr,#multipleRepresentations,#multipleRepresentations2,#multipleRepresentations3,#spaces-in-rel
chimezie... batch #3: #embedded-rdf10,#embedded-rdf4,#embedded-rdf5,#embedded-rdf6,#embedded-rdf8,#embedded-rdf9
PROPOSED: #embedded-rdf10,#embedded-rdf5,#embedded-rdf6,#embedded-rdf8,#embedded-rdf9
RESOLUTION: #embedded-rdf10,#embedded-rdf5,#embedded-rdf6,#embedded-rdf8,#embedded-rdf9
ACTION: jjc remove XSLT 2.0 / XSLT 1.0 fallback from embeddedRDF.xsl [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/25-grddl-wg-minutes.html#action10]
Discussion to approve #embedded-rdf4 with the output changed to have absolute URIs, for clarity
jjc ntriples is
http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/>
<http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#value>
"one" .
PROPOSED: to approve #embedded-rdf4 as is.
RESOLUTION: to approve #embedded-rdf4 as is.
chimezie... batch #3: #embedded-rdf7,#embedded-rdf7-alt
jjc I suggest removing #embedded-rdf7-alt, combined with action to take xslt2 out of lib above
... the XSLT1 base handling stuff punts (xsl:message terminate="yes") in some cases.
ACTION: chime to remove #embedded-rdf7,#embedded-rdf7-alt [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/25-grddl-wg-minutes.html#action11]
chimezie... batch #4: #grddlProfileBase1,#grddlProfileBase2,#grddlProfileBase3,#htmlbase1,#htmlbase2,#htmlbase3,#htmlbase4
RESOLUTION: to approve #grddlProfileBase1,#grddlProfileBase2,#grddlProfileBase3,#htmlbase1,#htmlbase2,#htmlbase3,#htmlbase4
<chimezie> #xmlbase1
output doc:
http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/grddl-wg/td/xmlWithBase-output
PROPOSED: to take test cases to last call, approving all tests that jjc+chime+john agree on, using editor's draft http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/grddl-wg/td/grddl-tests 2007/04/25 14:20:41 + edits as agreed by chime and john
HarryH I give my "yes"
jjc critical corrections from msg 0184 and as suggested in this meeting: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-grddl-wg/2007Apr/0184.html
RESOLUTION: to take test cases to last call, approving all tests that jjc+chime+john agree on, using editor's draft http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/grddl-wg/td/grddl-tests 2007/04/25 14:20:41 + edits as agreed by chime and john
<chimezie> for the records: the issues (with current versions of those testgs): http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-grddl-wg/2007Apr/0195.html
<HarryH> (those revisions having to deal with the tidy use-case in Use-Case Scenario document, and possibly wrapping an example of that into the Primer)
jjc jjc john chime agree to attempt to approve xmlbase 1-4 by e-mail, and possibly drop the other tests