W3C

GRDDL WG Weekly

1 Nov 2006

Agenda

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
DanC, briansuda, Chimezie_Ogbuji, HarryH, Murray_Maloney
Regrets
Fabien, Ben, Ian, BrianM
Chair
HarryH
Scribe
DanC

Contents


Convene GRDDL WG meeting of 2006-11-01T11:00-0400

<scribe> Scribe: DanC

<DanC_> minutes 25 Oct

RESOLUTION: to approve minutes 25 Oct

Harry: scribe for next week?

DanC: regrets for 8 Nov due to ISWC

RESOLUTION: to cancel 8 Nov meeting

RESOLUTION: to meet again 15 Nov, chime to scribe

Cross-document Introduction

<scribe> ACTION: iand to review Murray's suggested intro [CONTINUES] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/11/01-grddl-wg-minutes.html#action01]

GRDDL Spec: General issues

<scribe> ACTION: DanC to flesh out ways to express author information in different markup languages. [DONE] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/11/01-grddl-wg-minutes.html#action02]

<scribe> ACTION: DanC to create a "normative only" view of the GRDDL spec [CONTINUES] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/11/01-grddl-wg-minutes.html#action03]

<scribe> ACTION: DanC to add a sample implementation appendix to the GRDDL spec [CONTINUES] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/11/01-grddl-wg-minutes.html#action04]

some progress

<scribe> ACTION: chime to help danc with test cases on base param issue [CONTINUES] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/11/01-grddl-wg-minutes.html#action05]

[#issue-output-formats] whether GRDDL transformations may produce RDF in a format other than RDF/XML

<chimezie> ACTION: chimezie to develop test case to demonstrate both sides of the issue with #issue-output-formats [CONTINUES] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/11/01-grddl-wg-minutes.html#action06]

[#issue-mt-ns]

<DanC_> Re: toward tests for spec#issue-mt-ns

looking in http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/grddl-wg/td/sq1.xml

Content-Type: application/xml; qs=0.9

$ HEAD http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/grddl-wg/td/sq1ns

looking at http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/grddl-wg/td/sq1.xml http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/grddl-wg/td/sq1

"sounds about right" say several

<briansuda> yes

<chimezie> the mime-type should be authoratative

Danja: so if the mime type had been RDF, you would have gotten some triples?

DanC: yes, I think so; that's sq2, in progress

<DanC_> . <#grddl_rdf> a :Test;

<DanC_> . dc:title "for application/rdf+xml documents, the RDF/XML reading is a grddl result";

<chimezie> if the mime-type says RDF, it should be parsed as such (RDF/XML i.e.) otherwise it should check transformation attribute and namespace of the root (in the case of an RDF/XML document it has a unique namespace URI)

Murray: if the application/xml document bears the RDF namespace, isn't that good enough?

DanC: opinions vary

Murray: this is a question of web architecture, yes?

DanC: yes; the relevant TAG issue is open

Chime: yes, seems application/xml with the RDF namespace is triples that the author meant

Harry: yes, why would you not?

DanC: consider an XSLT literal result

[[ The Internet media type / MIME type for RDF/XML is "application/rdf+xml" ]] -- http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-syntax-grammar/

<chimezie> sounds like a test case is needed for the scenario where you have an rdf namespace uri with grddl:transformation attribute

<briansuda_> nick briansuda

<briansuda> it is beiansuda

POLL: does sq1ns have any RDF triples in it? i.e. does a document labelled application/xml that bears the RDF namespace have triples in it?
... no, yes, yes, ...
... no?, yes, yes,

<briansuda> but i am for looking at the mimeType to determine if it is RDF

poll: no, yes, yes, yes, yes

Harry: I'd like a yes person to deal with the XSLT literal result element, and for a no person to elaborate in email

<scribe> ACTION: DannyA to elaborate on issue-mt-ns, in particular RDF not labelled as application/rdf+xml [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/11/01-grddl-wg-minutes.html#action07]

Murray: let's let the TAG know we're aiming for a decision that may set precedent

<scribe> ACTION: DanC to notifiy TAG of interaction between issue-mt-ns and TAG issues on mime types and namespaces (and copy semweb-cg) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/11/01-grddl-wg-minutes.html#action08]

Primer Document

<scribe> ACTION: Harry and Brian to rewrite second part of primer to use Brian and Dan's instance data [CONTINUES] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/11/01-grddl-wg-minutes.html#action09]

<scribe> ACTION: DanC to contribute hotel reviews for primer [CONTINUES] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/11/01-grddl-wg-minutes.html#action10]

<scribe> ACTION: Danny to take testing test harness. [CONTINUES] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/11/01-grddl-wg-minutes.html#action11]

GRDDL Press

DanC: I did 2 interviews; one resulted in a story; in internetnews.com, I think

Harry: there has been a bit of blog activity

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: DanC to notifiy TAG of interaction between issue-mt-ns and TAG issues on mime types and namespaces (and copy semweb-cg) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/11/01-grddl-wg-minutes.html#action08]
[NEW] ACTION: DannyA to elaborate on issue-mt-ns, in particular RDF not labelled as application/rdf+xml [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/11/01-grddl-wg-minutes.html#action07]
 
[PENDING] ACTION: chime to help danc with test cases on base param issue [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/11/01-grddl-wg-minutes.html#action05]
[PENDING] ACTION: chimezie to develop test case to demonstrate both sides of the issue with #issue-output-formats [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/11/01-grddl-wg-minutes.html#action06]
[PENDING] ACTION: DanC to add a sample implementation appendix to the GRDDL spec [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/11/01-grddl-wg-minutes.html#action04]
[PENDING] ACTION: DanC to contribute hotel reviews for primer [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/11/01-grddl-wg-minutes.html#action10]
[PENDING] ACTION: DanC to create a "normative only" view of the GRDDL spec [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/11/01-grddl-wg-minutes.html#action03]
[PENDING] ACTION: Danny to take testing test harness. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/11/01-grddl-wg-minutes.html#action11]
[PENDING] ACTION: Harry and Brian to rewrite second part of primer to use Brian and Dan's instance data [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/11/01-grddl-wg-minutes.html#action09]
[PENDING] ACTION: iand to review Murray's suggested intro [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/11/01-grddl-wg-minutes.html#action01]
 
[DONE] ACTION: DanC to flesh out ways to express author information in different markup languages. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/11/01-grddl-wg-minutes.html#action02]
 
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