Re: Agenda of upcoming Aug. 16 15:00Z GRDDL WG Telecon

Excellent.. thanks :)

On Wed, 16 Aug 2006, Harry Halpin wrote:

> This e-mail might be useful to future scribes as well, and I do hope we
> can rotate scribe duties such that everyone in the group can try their
> hand at it.
>
> The process is described here [3], and likely the chair will invite the
> robots in myself if the chair gets to the meeting channel before you.
>
> http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/addr/minutes.html
>
> Don't worry about keeping the speaker queue and managing the agenda, the
> chair does that with Zakim. However, there is documentation on Zakim
> that's fun to read [2] .
>
> Another bot, RRSAgent, that automatically drafts and formats the minutes
> from the IRC logs. The URI describing RRS Agent [1] is well worth
> looking at!
>
> In a nutshell, the main task of the scribe is just to write out what
> people are saying in the telecon on the IRC channel, since often whoever
> is speaking is too busy to type their points up as they speak :) Preface
> what they are saying with their nick, so if DanC says "blah blah" on the
> phone and it's rather important, in the IRC channel type:
> ---
> DanC: Blah Blah (or some summary thereof)
> ---
> And if we come to some sort of action, write:
> ACTION: DanC to do something
> ----
> And finally if we resolve something, type:
> RESOLUTION: blah blah
> ----
>
> As for the log:
>
> "The log will appear in http://www.w3.org/yyyy/mm/dd-<channel>-irc
> where 'yyyy' is the current year,'mm' is the current month, and 'dd' is
> the current day. Three variants of the log are written; .html contains
> XHTML, .rdf contains RDF, and .txt contains plain text."[2] I don't
> believe this is publically accessible, but either myself or Dan can
> download it for you from CVS and e-mail it you.
>
> Generally you can use scribe.pl (linked to from [1]) to reformat the
> minutes. using scribe.pl, linked to from [3].
>
> Then your job would be  to make any corrections to the minutes
> (generally erasing irrelevant material, and doing so fairly promptly in
> about 24 hours) and e-mail the draft minutes URI to the list-serv  for
> review. If there's any corrections, make them before the next meeting
> before we approve the minutes.
>
>        hope this helps,
>             harry
>
>
> [1] http://www.w3.org/2002/03/RRSAgent
> [2] http://www.w3.org/2001/12/zakim-irc-bot.html
> [3] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/addr/minutes.html
>
>
> Chimezie Ogbuji wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 15 Aug 2006, Harry Halpin wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Everyone,
>>>
>>>    Here's the draft agenda of the meeting this upcoming Wedneday,
>>> August 16th. If you have any agenda items to add, please do e-mail me
>>> ahead of time. Also, for those of new to these telecons, please e-mail
>>> me before the meeting and we'll try to do a quick run through of how
>>> they work 10-15 minutes beforehand.
>>
>> I've never scribed before, but I'd appreciate a quick run thru of mostly:
>>
>> 1) speaker queueing / agenda functionality (I've seen this done, but
>> some electronic reference would be nice)
>>
>> 2) getting the IRC logs of a session (as recorded by Zakim)
>>
>> 3) whatever other tools are used for managing meeting minutes
>>
>> Chimezie Ogbuji
>> Lead Systems Analyst
>> Thoracic and Cardiovascular Surgery
>> Cleveland Clinic Foundation
>> 9500 Euclid Avenue/ W26
>> Cleveland, Ohio 44195
>> Office: (216)444-8593
>> ogbujic@ccf.org
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Our meeting is 08-16-2006, 15:00Z (11:00 ET)
>>>
>>> Call +1.617.761.6200 with the code:GRDDL
>>>
>>>    The agenda as stands is below - so get cracking on those use-cases
>>> in particular. While I'd like to get into the technical issues GRDDL
>>> soon, I'd be satisified with the meetings if we get 4-5 (we have to draw
>>> a limit somewhere) very solid use cases out of Wednesday's meeting as a
>>> follow up to the brainstorm from last time.
>>>
>>> Agenda in HTML available here:
>>> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/grddl-wg/
>>>
>>> GRDDL WG Weekly Teleconference
>>>
>>> 1. Convene [2]GRDDL WG meeting of 2006-08-16T15:00Z
>>> [3]local times
>>>    + [4]Zakim teleconference bridge: [5]+1.617.761.6200
>>>    code:GRDDL
>>>    + scribe: Chime
>>>      supplementary IRC chat:
>>>            [6]irc://irc.w3.org:6665/grddl-wg ([7]log to appear)
>>>    + PROPOSED: to approve [8]last week's minutes
>>>    + roll call, comments on the agenda
>>>
>>> 2. Finding Best Time for Re-occuring Meetings
>>>    Next meeting time? Can current time slot (15:00Z Wed.) be
>>> re-occuring?\ Recall Ian's offer to scribe 23 Aug.
>>>
>>> 3. Use Cases, scenario gallery
>>>    + ACTION: Fabien to sketch out scenario gallery done: [9]10 Aug msg
>>> cites [10]initial draft
>>>    + ACTION: Harry to Microformat suite. Also, read [11]Liam Quinn's
>>> Microformat Definition Language paper for further background if you
>>> wish.
>>>    + ACTION: Danny to flesh out hReview use case
>>>    + ACTION: BenA to flesh out HTML output of GRDDL use cases
>>>    + ACTION: Chime to flesh out XForms/RDF use case
>>>
>>> 4. Validation and testing discussion.
>>>    See [12]XSLTUnit for one possible tool. How are we going to make
>>> sure our XSLT stylesheets (and possibly other mechanims) work over all
>>> (or at least a wide variety) of cases?
>>>
>>> 5. Concerns with [13]GRDDL submission
>>>    + ACTION: IanD to propose restructuring of current GRDDL doc(s)
>>> also: base URI issue, WS issues ...
>>>
>>> 6. Relationship to the [14]XML Processing Model Working Group
>>>    What exactly sort of pipeine behavior should we allow? Currently
>>> GRDDL is just a single HTML document that converts to RDF. Narrow scope
>>> is good unless a use-case shows otherwise.
>>> _________________________________________________________
>>>
>>> [2] http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/grddl-wg/
>>> [3]
>>> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=08&day=16&year=2006&hour=19&min=30&sec=0&p1=0
>>>
>>> [4] http://www.w3.org/2002/06/bridge#Zakim
>>> [5] tel:+1.617.761.6200;postd=47335
>>> [6] irc://irc.w3.org:6665/grddl-wg
>>> [7] http://www.w3.org/2006/08/16-grddl-wg-irc
>>> [8] http://www.w3.org/2006/08/09-grddl-wg-minutes
>>> [9]
>>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-grddl-wg/2006Aug/0016.html
>>> [10]
>>> http://www-sop.inria.fr/acacia/personnel/Fabien.Gandon/tmp/grddl/scenario-gallery.htm
>>>
>>> [11]
>>> http://www.idealliance.org/papers/extreme/proceedings/html/2006/Quin01/EML2006Quin01.html
>>>
>>> [12] http://www.xsltunit.org/
>>> [13] http://www.w3.org/TeamSubmission/grddl/
>>> [14] http://www.w3.org/XML/Processing/
>>> --
>>> -harry
>>>
>>> Harry Halpin, University of Edinburgh
>>> http://www.ibiblio.org/hhalpin 6B522426
>>>
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>
>
> --
> 		-harry
>
> Harry Halpin,  University of Edinburgh
> http://www.ibiblio.org/hhalpin 6B522426
>

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