- From: John Erickson <olyerickson@gmail.com>
- Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2013 07:27:08 -0500
- To: Richard Cyganiak <richard@cyganiak.de>
- Cc: Luke Blaney <w3.mailing_lists@lukeblaney.co.uk>, public-gld-comments@w3.org
Thanks to Luke for the question and Richard for the response. I've added some (also unofficial...) comments to Richard's answer to the first question, below: On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 6:55 AM, Richard Cyganiak <richard@cyganiak.de> wrote: > (not an official working group response) > > On 6 Nov 2013, at 22:54, Luke Blaney <w3.mailing_lists@lukeblaney.co.uk> wrote: >> The main thing I noticed was the ambiguity between accessURLs and downloadURLs. I think any spec which contains the words "...when you are not sure whether it is" could do with more clarification. >> Does a downloadURL need to contain the entire dataset, or is it permissible to specify multiple downloadURLs, each containing part of the dataset? For example, if a dataset contains 3 tables, each downloadable as a separate CSV, can the links to all three be added as downloadURLs? > > I’d say no. I read the spec as saying that multiple downloadURLs indicate the same data in different formats. I think that may be reading too much into it. One can also think of a dataset as a collection of items, with each downloadURL in the Distribution providing direct access to one of the items. I see this as comparable to the hierarchy in CKAN, with each downloadURL pointing to one of the "resources" associated with a CKAN dataset. In another example, if one was modelling a complete image as a dataset, each downloadURL could point to a different manifestation (resolution, format, etc). The bottom line is that additional metadata (such as from a "research object" ontology and/or from ORE) may be required for the application to unambiguously state what the relationships are. >> The definition of accessURL seems like it could be interpreted to include direct downloads. Does this mean that downloadURL is a subProperty of accessURL? If it is, it'd be nice to have an rdfs:subPropertyOf relationship in there. > > This design is, in fact, what I remember from earlier working group discussions, and I was surprised that the spec doesn’t say that downloadURL is a subproperty of accessURL. My belief is that there are MANY interpretations of accessURL. In our implementation (for example) we have accessURL point to the high-level, descriptive dataset page in a repository, and the downloadURLs point to the manifestations. >> If it isn't, then perhaps the definition of accessURL needs to make this explicit. >> >> Other than that, I found the inclusion of rdfs:domain on Properties quite inconsistent. In my view, all rdfs:Properties should have rdfs:domain and rdfs:range specified. > > I would agree for any properties defined in the DCAT namespace. In particular, I note that the following properties don’t show an explicit domain, even though their description often implies that they only can be applied to a particular class of entities (catalog, dataset, distribution): > > themeTaxonomy > theme > keyword > contactPoint > accessURL > downloadURL > byteSize > mediaType > > The ship may have sailed on all of these issues, given that DCAT is in CR stage and that the WG’s charter is running out... > > Best, > Richard > > > >> Also, http://www.w3.org/ns/dcat.ttl doesn't seem to match everything at http://www.w3.org/TR/vocab-dcat/ Is there an up-to-date version of the ontology in RDF? >> >> Regards, >> Luke Blaney >> >> P.S. Well done on linking out to other ontologies for existing concepts. I've noticed a worrying trend recently of people minting their own concepts for everything. > > -- John S. Erickson, Ph.D. Director, Web Science Operations Tetherless World Constellation (RPI) <http://tw.rpi.edu> <olyerickson@gmail.com> Twitter & Skype: olyerickson
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