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Re: Intended usage notification

From: Henning Schulzrinne <hgs@cs.columbia.edu>
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 23:21:23 -0400
Cc: public-geolocation@w3.org
Message-Id: <86D84951-8CB5-4E43-B63D-5D180CD9E02C@cs.columbia.edu>
To: Doug Turner <doug.turner@gmail.com>
I think it would be more honest to state that *you* believe this, not  
some regal *we*; not everybody agrees. You make certain assumptions  
that not everybody shares. Everybody is entitled to their opinion, but  
it would help the discussion if you extended the same courtesy to  

On Apr 12, 2009, at 10:58 PM, Doug Turner wrote:

> On Apr 12, 2009, at 3:39 PM, Greg Bolsinga wrote:
>> On Apr 12, 2009, at 3:23 PM, Nick Doty wrote:
>>> Hmm, wouldn't it be pretty tacky for users to have to click  
>>> through a generic Javascript alert in order to make sure they had  
>>> contextual information for the separate dialogue for revealing  
>>> location information?
>> That's subjective. But the developer can create an entire web page  
>> that explains things before it uses GeoLocation.
>>> I think we have an opportunity to make it easy for web site  
>>> designers to do the right thing and disclose this information in a  
>>> standardized way.  If we rely on each web site designer going out  
>>> of their way to accomplish this (with a Javascript alert or  
>>> varying levels of conspicuous disclosure), I fear that we'll end  
>>> up  in a situation where most users are making the decision  
>>> whether or not to disclose their location without knowing the  
>>> relevant information, beyond the URI.  In other words, I'd like to  
>>> solve the problem for everyone, not just for me.
>> IMHO, all this API is about is getting the location. It's not about  
>> UI for this feature. That's properly left up to the UA and the code  
>> on the sites using the API.
> Nick,
> I think you have raised an interesting idea about disclosing intent  
> of usage through this device API.  However, over this thread we have  
> shown that it does more harm that it helps, especially when you  
> consider untrustworthy sites.
> Thanks for raising the idea, however I do not think any UA should  
> implement an API in such a way.
> Doug Turner
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