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Re: GeoPriv and the geolocation api.

From: Doug Turner <doug.turner@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 13:37:02 -0800
Message-Id: <CD329001-C260-4729-9D54-6B7D951136EB@gmail.com>
To: public-geolocation <public-geolocation@w3.org>

After rereading the liaison statement and our member discussion notes,  
I do not thing that we have adequately discussed the use of a  
recommendation similar to that of the WCAG, but for privacy.  I  
believe we should discuss this approach next week when we talk about  
privacy of the user.

Doug Turner

On Nov 19, 2008, at 7:28 AM, John Morris wrote:

> Doug, just a heads up for the list, the folks at Geopriv are  
> preparing a "liaison statement" about this topic to be submitted by  
> the IETF to the W3C.  I think that statement will do some of what  
> you are looking for.  John
> At 11:51 AM -0800 11/18/08, Doug Turner wrote:
>> I didn't get any responses publicly from any GeoPriv experts.   
>> Would it make sense to work on a privacy recommendation based on  
>> the work that GeoPriv has done?
>> Regards,
>> Doug Turner
>> On Nov 6, 2008, at 2:17 PM, Doug Turner wrote:
>>> Mozilla believes that the privacy and security of users is  
>>> incredibly important.  We believe that the user must always be put  
>>> in the position to make safe decisions.
>>> GeoPriv extends the user's decision from simply a "yes/no", to  
>>> being able to express, among other things, retransmit and  
>>> retention ideas.  This spec clearly outlines how authorization of  
>>> geolocation, and probably other forms of data, could be  
>>> transmitted.  However, GeoPriv is not the solution to the problem  
>>> we have.  There are many other pieces of private data that pass  
>>> between the ua and websites - some possibly more sensitive than  
>>> one's geolocation.  We do not have a comprehensive web privacy API  
>>> that protects these bits.  Adding GeoPriv to the Geolocation API  
>>> will add more bits on the wire, more complexity for websites and  
>>> developers, and yield no protection beyond a given site's existing  
>>> privacy policy.
>>> Mozilla does share the concerns voiced in the GeoPriv charter, but  
>>> does not share the idea that creating APIs makes this problem  
>>> smaller.
>>> Instead, we believe that much of what GeoPriv provides could be  
>>> addressed by a recommended guideline for websites, similar to the  
>>> Web Content Accessibility Guidelines (WCAG).  The WCAG W3C  
>>> Recommendation, backed by Section 508 (in the US), has done much  
>>> more than any web API could have.  It would be interesting to see  
>>> if there is interest in developing a similar recommendation around  
>>> privacy, analogous to WCAG, presented as guidelines to websites.   
>>> Mozilla may be interested in helping with such a effort.
>>> Regards,
>>> Doug Turner
>>> Mozilla Corporation
Received on Friday, 5 December 2008 21:37:44 UTC

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