- From: Dirk Schulze <dschulze@adobe.com>
- Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 22:26:51 -0800
- To: Rik Cabanier <cabanier@gmail.com>
- CC: Lea Verou <lea@verou.me>, Michael Mullany <michael@sencha.com>, Dean Jackson <dino@apple.com>, "public-fx@w3.org" <public-fx@w3.org>, www-style list <www-style@w3.org>, Stefan-Teodor Craciun <scraciun@adobe.com>
On Dec 6, 2013, at 5:42 AM, Rik Cabanier <cabanier@gmail.com> wrote: > In going with Lea's comment that authors equate backdrop with blending, I propose the following new property: > backdrop-blur: none | <length> > Length would be the parameter passed into the blur() filter [1]. This is extremely specific for exactly one use case. At least color matrix filters are common as well. > > Specifying this parameter in combination with mix-blend-mode[2], would blur the backdrop that is available during the blending step. Compositing would happen as usual. > An alternate would be to extend mix-blend-mode so you can write the following: > mix-blend-mode: screen blur(10px); I would be more in favor for that. Although, it should have all filter functions as a list of filter functions. > This can still be made compatible with future additions that target parts of an element. > > I'm in the process of creating an experimental windows-only build of firefox that implements. > > Thoughts? > > 1: http://www.w3.org/TR/filter-effects/#funcdef-blur > 2: http://dev.w3.org/fxtf/compositing-1/#mix-blend-mode Greetings, Dirk > > > On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 7:51 PM, Rik Cabanier <cabanier@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 10:35 PM, Lea Verou <lea@verou.me> wrote: > On Nov 29, 2013, at 12:45, Rik Cabanier <cabanier@gmail.com> wrote: > > This might work. > > My main concern is that it would overload mix-blend-mode too much since we're also hoping to repurpose it to blend different areas of an element. I'm unsure how we would reconcile that. > > Do you have a suggestion? > > If the syntax for that is what was discussed in the FXTF a while ago, I don’t see what the conflict would be. Care to elaborate? :) > > Looking 18 months (!) back on this thread, I proposed the following: > mix-blend-mode: color-burn(blur(5px)) > > Doing it this way will be confusing if we want to blend different elements, ie > mix-blend-mode: background screen, border multiply, content overlay, element hue > Now, each of those *could* theoretically blur the backdrop but that is not a strong use case. > This syntax also gives the impression that your content/border/element has the effect applied as opposed to the backdrop. > > Also, as Michael mentioned, simply blurring will not give you the desired effect. You often want to soften the backdrop with a white color that's blended with soft light or screen. > He also mentions: > we need finer control of the blur opacity/falloff > > I'd prefer if we could create a new property that has nice defaults and if we can avoid writing filter chains in CSS. > > >
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