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Re: Updated filters specification

From: Erik Dahlstrom <ed@opera.com>
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 09:28:27 +0200
To: "robert@ocallahan.org" <robert@ocallahan.org>, "Vincent Hardy" <vhardy@adobe.com>
Cc: "Rik Cabanier" <cabanier@gmail.com>, "Dean Jackson" <dino@apple.com>, "Dirk Schulze" <vbs85@gmx.de>, "public-fx@w3.org" <public-fx@w3.org>, "Anthony Grasso" <anthony.grasso@cisra.canon.com.au>
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On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 06:05:13 +0200, Vincent Hardy <vhardy@adobe.com> wrote:

> On Apr 26, 2011, at 8:55 PM, Robert O'Callahan wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 7:20 PM, Erik Dahlstrom  
> <ed@opera.com<mailto:ed@opera.com>> wrote:
> Deprecating (or dropping) 'enable-background' would essentially mean  
> that BackgroundImage and BackgroundAlpha would always generate a  
> transparent black result in the context of filters (I presume this is  
> what the browsers that don't support enable-background already do, and  
> it follows the error handling that is defined for when there was no  
> "enable-background:new" parent element). Typically that means that  
> things still render without errors but probably not as intended by the  
> author.
> Why can't we define BackgroundImage and BackgroundAlpha in a way that  
> continues to work in the absence of enable-background? I think we can,  
> even with GPU-accelerated rendering. In the worst case you can detect  
> use of BackgroundImage/BackgroundAlpha and automatically infer the  
> equivalent of enable-background for the ancestor elements.
> I think it would be difficult to get the exact equivalent of the current  
> behavior because currently, enable-background can be on the element's  
> parent, grand-parent, or any other ancestor.
> Vincent.

That's true, but in practice I think that most files with  
'enable-background' has had that attribute set only on the root svg  
element. That accounts for most of the Illustrator files I've seen anyway.  
Btw does Illustrator always add 'enable-background' there, even when it's  
not used by any filters?

Erik Dahlstrom, Core Technology Developer, Opera Software
Co-Chair, W3C SVG Working Group
Personal blog: http://my.opera.com/macdev_ed
Received on Thursday, 28 April 2011 07:30:18 UTC

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